Iran Super Thread- Merged

[HavokFour]

Someone has realized they've thoroughly stepped in it.

Exclusive: US intelligence warns Iran unlikely to ease Hormuz Strait chokehold soon, sources say

Recent U.S. intelligence reports warn that Iran is unlikely to open the Strait of Hormuz any time soon because its grip on the world’s most vital oil artery provides the only real leverage it has over the United States, according to three sources familiar with the ‌matter.

www.reuters.com

Meanwhile...

Trump claims Starmer is weak as he mocks PM and UK aircraft carriers

Footage shows US president saying UK ‘should be our best’ ally and accusing PM of prevarication over sending ships

www.theguardian.com

This says a lot.

“But should be our best but they weren’t our best. I said: ‘You have two, old broken-down aircraft carriers, do you think you could send them over?’

“‘Ohhh, I’ll have to ask my team.’

“I said: ‘You’re the prime minister, you don’t have to.’

“‘No, no, no, I have to ask my team. My team has to meet, we’re meeting next week.’

“But the war already started. Next week the war’s going to be over … in three days.”

The remarks were made at a lunch that was not open to the press. It was released by the White House on a social media channel but later deleted. However, it was downloaded and republished by a politics reporter for the US website Business Insider.

 

[brihard]

Not clear how solid this is, but there may have been two A-10s downed; one in the Gulf, one crashed in Kuwait, both supporting the F-15 rescue. The poster is claiming CENTCOM sources for this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2040196563247436134

 

[Kirkhill]

Someone has realized they've thoroughly stepped in it.

Exclusive: US intelligence warns Iran unlikely to ease Hormuz Strait chokehold soon, sources say

Recent U.S. intelligence reports warn that Iran is unlikely to open the Strait of Hormuz any time soon because its grip on the world’s most vital oil artery provides the only real leverage it has over the United States, according to three sources familiar with the ‌matter.

www.reuters.com

Meanwhile...

Trump claims Starmer is weak as he mocks PM and UK aircraft carriers

Footage shows US president saying UK ‘should be our best’ ally and accusing PM of prevarication over sending ships

www.theguardian.com

This says a lot.

He isn't wrong on Starmer.

Starmer has heard "I'll take that under advisement" one too many times. It is now who he is. He can't make a decision on his own.

 

[brihard]

Meanwhile...

Trump claims Starmer is weak as he mocks PM and UK aircraft carriers

Footage shows US president saying UK ‘should be our best’ ally and accusing PM of prevarication over sending ships

www.theguardian.com

This says a lot.

He isn't wrong on Starmer.

Starmer has heard "I'll take that under advisement" one too many times. It is now who he is. He can't make a decision on his own.

Does Trump not realize that this supposed deferral is simply Starmer blowing him off without just bluntly saying “what you want me to do is really stupid; nor a chance in hell”?

 

[Brad Sallows]

You keep asserting that only the American and Israelin measures of success should be considered.

Maybe not "only", but what are the Iranian measures of success?

If the only measure the Iranians care about (perhaps because it's the only one they can really be assured of achieving) is regime continuation and the US/Israel don't care about regime continuation (perhaps because that's part of status quo they're prepared to continue accepting as they already do), then regime continuation doesn't really matter. Conversely, if the only thing the US/Israel care about is particular kinds of attrition, it's a bit of a stretch to pretend that Iran can afford not to care about its losses. It's certainly possible that some measures matter more than others, and some maybe not at all. Some have only transient value.

But to go back to the original question. I will ask again. Are you at all capable of thinking from the Iranian perspective or is red teaming beyond your faculties?

You're proposing a game of Calvinball. Not interested.

Ideology yields strengths and weaknesses. If some dumb son-of-a-bitch believes in martyrdom and it makes him a little bit careless and you just want to get rid of him, help him follow his ideology.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Right. Crazy the media is getting that information to release.

Being forthright and proactive are essential PA principles for businesses and armies wanting to avoid more complicated discussions later on.

 

[Kirkhill]

Does Trump not realize that this supposed deferral is simply Starmer blowing him off without just bluntly saying “what you want me to do is really stupid; nor a chance in hell”?

Does Trump care?

That could indeed be the rationale behind Starmer's response. But, unfortunately, it has become his standard response to everybody about everything - oil and gas, NHS doctors strikes, replacing staff, the environment, EU regs....

The man, in the vernacular, is a tosser.

 

[OldSolduer]

The man, in the vernacular, is a tosser.

That could be said of more than one politician

 

[Kirkhill]

That could be said of more than one politician

But only some are in positions where their incompetence is dangerous.

 

[armrdsoul77]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2040235101418582286