Iran Super Thread- Merged

[Altair]

AI ASSISTED
In this video, the creator analyzes a memorandum of understanding (MOU) regarding a deal involving the United States and Iran, arguing that the agreement is fundamentally flawed, poorly negotiated, and lacks enforceable mechanisms. The creator highlights several major concerns:

• Lack of Enforceability: The creator argues that the deal is written like a real estate contract rather than an international treaty, ignoring the reality that such agreements lack a governing judicial body to enforce compliance (0:46-2:06).
• Contradictory Preconditions: The agreement calls for an immediate end to the war in Lebanon, which the creator notes contradicts the stated intentions of the Israeli government, rendering the deal unrealistic from the start (2:17-3:35).
• One-Sided Concessions: The creator emphasizes that the United States is committing to significant actions—such as lifting a naval blockade, withdrawing forces, and pledging $300 billion in funding—without extracting meaningful, concrete commitments from Iran in exchange (5:29-10:20, 16:41-17:20).
• Financial Scale: The $300 billion commitment is characterized as an extreme level of reparations, significantly higher than the adjusted cost of the post-WWII Marshall Plan, and is criticized for being an unsustainable burden on the American taxpayer (10:20-12:02, 21:33-24:08).
• Missing Protections: The creator highlights the glaring absence of any restrictions on Iranian proxies, including Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, or Iraqi militias (19:35-20:07).

Ultimately, the creator views the deal as a "gooberfest" of bad diplomacy that concedes critical negotiating levers—such as control over oil exports and existing sanctions—before final negotiations have even commenced (17:47-19:02, 20:53-21:12).

Just another channel saying this is a complete cluster.

 

[HavokFour]

MOU has been signed, early.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2067397136539435402

And wasting no time in blaming it all on... Vance?

https://twitter.com/x/status/2067388182753100273

 

[Fishbone Jones]

"One congressional Republican tells me"

I can't accept the word of the of the MSM when they don't use names. It's too convenient to float your own butt hurt narrative without having to give your source.

 

[Eaglelord17]

All the people who thought these were the tough guys......

Turns out they are so sensitive to public sentiment that even in a second term presidency, they'd rather suffer humiliating defeat than plow through $5 gas.

Every adversary has America's number now.

It would be much more than 5$ gas

The reality is the American strategic reserve is getting low.

That leaves them with three options.

1) They stop exporting oil screwing their allies over
2) They keep exporting and the price of oil goes up substantially in America
3) They make peace and allow the world markets to recover.

They chose option 3.

Some of this is also the fault of long term US strategic policy. For example if they weren’t so vested in keeping our oil landlocked (actively funding protesters, interfering diplomatically, etc.) we could have helped support the global economy. If they hadn’t stopped us from expanding more pipelines south we could have supplied them with more oil again allowing them to stay in this longer.

 

[PuckChaser]

This has gone quite a while without the dumpster overflowing from the politics boards. I would like to think people can keep it that way so we dont have to lock this and push the politics where it belongs.

- Milnet.ca Staff

 

[brihard]

Trump has said he's OK with Iran keeping some of its ballistic missiles out of fairness. I don't think this is going over well in Israel. It's certainly a profound shift from some of Trump's maximalist positions just weeks ago.

“If other countries have them, it’s a little bit unfair for them not to have some,” Trump said in France, where he held a press conference on the sidelines of a G7 summit. “If Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and they all have some, I would say that in relative proportion, I think it’s okay” for Iran to have ballistic missiles as well.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-deal-takes-force-trump-says-its-okay-for-iran-to-have-some-ballistic-missiles/

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Mark Carney calls Trump's Iran peace deal a 'game changer' in CNN interview

Prime Minister Mark Carney says he has seen the Iran peace deal brokered by the United States and calls it a gamechanger.

nationalpost.com

"PMMC says he has seen the Iran peace deal brokered by the United States and calls it a “game changer” for how leaders could approach a peace process with Ukraine and Russia.
“I have to say it exceeded my expectations,” said Carney, during an interview CNN’s The Source with Kaitlan Collins, on Tuesday. “We’re very pleased with the deal that’s been struck.”

Not satisfied with taking PMMC's word? That's ok... I get it.

Do you really think any of the G7 leaders think this is a good deal? They said what they had to say - threw the gorilla a banana so to speak.

They all know this is a horrible deal for the US, but acting on their own interest, as all nations do, they are glad the Straits are open

Interestingly, many Republicans think this is a horrific deal / captiulatipn

 

[ytz]

So how many days after they get the $24B will they close the Strait again? Bets?

 

[Good2Golf]

So how many days after they get the $24B will they close the Strait again? Bets?

We can probably count on it…the first time that Bibi drops bombs again on Lebanon and *puts the US into default.

It would seem there’s a new hegemon on the global scene.

INCO - Iran Never Chickens Out

 

[dapaterson]

Good to know that Iran's ballistic missiles are the good kind of missile, not the bad kind of missile.

 

[KevinB]

Do you really think any of the G7 leaders think this is a good deal? They said what they had to say - threw the gorilla a banana so to speak.

They all know this is a horrible deal for the US, but acting on their own interest, as all nations do, they are glad the Straits are open

Interestingly, many Republicans think this is a horrific deal / captiulatipn

If I was the rest of the G7, I’d be having an after meeting to come up a consensus on what to do when it all goes to hell.

 

[dapaterson]

If I was the rest of the G7, I’d be having an after meeting to come up a consensus on what to do when it all goes to hell.

You mean make plans for the weekend?

 

[daftandbarmy]

You mean make plans for the weekend?

Shopping at Evian is a plan

 

[Staff Weenie]

Good to know that Iran's ballistic missiles are the good kind of missile, not the bad kind of missile.

It is too round on the top. It needs to be pointy. Round is not scary. This will put a smile on the faces of the enemy.

 

[Grunt_031]

If I was the rest of the G7, I’d be having an after meeting to come up a consensus on what to do when it all goes to hell.

They are always having these. That is one of the reasons Carney is always in Europe.

 

[Altair]

It is too round on the top. It needs to be pointy. Round is not scary. This will put a smile on the faces of the enemy.

 

[Good2Golf]

Johnson!!!

 

[Colin Parkinson]

The Indian media seems to have a clearer view of the MOU

 

[Genetk44]

Was watching a few talking heads on FOX News this morning, in luding some retired military officers. None of them had anything good to say about the MOU….which did not sit well with the Fox anchors.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

It's a shitty deal, that anyone who is a diehard Trump fan is struggling to put lipstick on a pig.