Islamic Terrorism in the West ( Mega thread)

[Colin Parkinson]

I will be impressed with the moderate Muslims here, when I see non-segregated mosques and women not being harassed for not wearing a headcover when they pray.

 

[ueo]

Didn't/doesn't the Catholic church and others require women to have their heads covered befor entry? Just sayin'

 

[George Wallace]

Didn't/doesn't the Catholic church and others require women to have their heads covered befor entry? Just sayin'

Ummmm? Not since the late '60's.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

They used to, but not anymore. However, how many Catholic women priests do you know?  ;D

Ah well! It's a slow process ...

 

[dapaterson]

I will be impressed with the moderate Muslims here, when I see non-segregated mosques and women not being harassed for not wearing a headcover when they pray.

How about women praying uncovered at the Western Wall?

 

[ueo]

Uncovered well maybe. Unsegregated-  that's another issue.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

How about women praying uncovered at the Western Wall?

I talking about Canada, where unlike most places in the Islamic world a women has equal rights and actually their segregation and covering requirement may actually be an infringement of their Charter Rights. Seems Churches here can't exclude Gays based on religious beliefs, not sure why women aren't pursuing this more strongly. (Note there is one group setting up mosques where men and women pray together and led at times by female Imans. 

 

[cupper]

Obama Transfers Accused bin Laden Bodyguard from Gitmo to Montenegro

I won't be surprised when this terrorist catch and release program comes back to bite the west one day.  I know there's already been other released goat humpers that dove right back in afterwards.

Hey, it's not like he can go back to doing what he was doing. He'll have to file for unemployment.  [

 

[dapaterson]

My point was that it's religious extremists that are the problem; not Islam in and of itself.  There are numerous reports of Orthodox Jews refusing to sit beside women on aircraft; some even wrap themselves in plastic bags because their aircraft will be flying over a graveyard - hardly the signs of a modern, rational mind, yet we give them a pass, but condemn anyone with a beard who goes to a mosque.

 

[mariomike]

; some even wrap themselves in plastic bags because their aircraft will be flying over a graveyard -

 

[cupper]

; some even wrap themselves in plastic bags because their aircraft will be flying over a graveyard -

Don't they read the warnings on the side of the bag?

 

[jollyjacktar]

I suppose if they kick the bucket on the flight or get airsick it'll keep the cabin cleaner.  How thoughtful of them, awwww. 

 

[cavalryman]

Don't they read the warnings on the side of the bag?

It says keep away from babies or children.  No mention of grown men.  >

 

[The Bread Guy]

No official claim of responsibility yet, but a big attack in Turkey:

A gun and bomb attack on Istanbul's Ataturk airport has killed 41 people, at least 13 of them foreigners, and injured more than 230, officials say.

Three attackers arrived in a taxi and began firing at the terminal entrance late on Tuesday. They blew themselves up after police fired back.

PM Binali Yildirim said early signs pointed to so-called Islamic State but no-one has so far admitted the attack.

Recent bombings have been linked to either IS or Kurdish separatists ...

As for the Kurds, here's a statement from their Regional Government:

Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) has strongly condemned the terrorist attacks which killed 36 people and injured nearly 150 others at the Ataturk Airport of Istanbul, Turkey.

KRG Spokesperson Safin Dizayi delivered condolences to the people of Turkey, the families of the victims, and wished “rapid recovery” to the injured.

Two explosions overnight on Tuesday rocked Istanbul’s busiest airport, with three suicide bombers involved in the attack.

Since Kurdistan Region is at the forefront of the war on terrorism, it fully understands the sorrow brought to Turkey, Dizayi told KRG’s official website.

The Kurdish official reiterated that such a tragedy proves that terrorism is a global threat and it targets wherever it can reach. He stressed out that a greater international engagement in the anti-terrorism efforts is required to prevent such tragedies.

More on the blasts @ Google News here.

 

[George Wallace]

This has to be a new low; the lowest of lows really:


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Palestinian, 19, Stabs 13-Year-Old to Death in West Bank Settlement
The New York Times
By DIAA HADID and MYRA NOVECKJUNE 30, 2016

JERUSALEM — A Palestinian teenager scrambled over a fence surrounding a Jewish settlement in the West Bank, ran into a house and stabbed an Israeli girl to death as she slept in her bed on Thursday morning.

The perpetrator, Mohammad Tarayreh, 19, was fatally shot after the attack. The victim, Hallel Yaffa Ariel, 13, had been sleeping in after staying up late for a dance performance the night before. Her father found her in her room, according to the Israeli news media and the head of the settlement’s volunteer security team.

The killing, in the Kiryat Arba settlement, was the latest in a series of attacks that surged in October and have left more than 30 Israelis dead. More than 210 Palestinians have also been killed, most while carrying out attacks or when thought to be about to do so.

Thursday’s attack was particularly gruesome.

Mr. Tarayreh, from Bani Naim, a sprawling town separated from Kiryat Arba by hills, a highway and a barrier surrounding the Jewish settlement, managed to cross over the fence early Thursday, Eyal Gelman, the head of the Kiryat Arba security team, told Israeli radio. He entered the Ariels’ house — it was unclear how — and locked himself in. The team of armed residents, including Hallel’s father, saw that the fence had been breached and began searching for the assailant.

“Everything happened very quickly,” Mr. Gelman said. Three of the volunteers managed to get into the locked house. Mr. Tarayreh attacked one of them with his knife, injuring him, Mr. Gelman said. Another volunteer shot and killed Mr. Tarayreh.

The volunteers, including Hallel’s father, rushed to the bedroom the girl appeared to have shared with her two younger sisters, who had already left for the day. Only Hallel was still lying in her bed. “I counted 18 stab wounds,” Mr. Gelman said.

A photograph released by the Israeli army showed the children’s bedroom — crammed with a bunk bed, another bed, a carpet and cushions — soaked in blood. Hallel died after she was rushed to a hospital in Jerusalem.

“My daughter was sleeping, calm, she was happy,” said her mother, Rina Ariel, weeping as she spoke to Israeli reporters from the hospital. “A terrorist comes and murders her in her bed.”

Ms. Ariel urged Israelis to come and console the family by visiting the contentious Jewish settlement. “Come, tell us that our Kiryat Arba is still a place possible to live in, not to die in, and continue our love of this place and the country,” she said. “Hallel, your memory will be blessed.”

Mr. Tarayreh may have been trying to emulate a young woman from his hometown, or perhaps to avenge her death. The woman, Majd al-Khudour, 18, rammed her car into a bus stop at the entrance of Kiryat Arba on Friday and was killed.

A Facebook group for news from Bani Naim posted screenshots that it claimed were from Mr. Tarayreh’s own Facebook page, in which he appeared to have posted a poem praising Ms. Khudour’s bravery the day after she was killed.

“Today the house wept, Majd, for you / for your absence, your family rings the bell of pain,” he wrote.

In another poem, posted on the same day, Mr. Tarayreh asked when he would die. “Grave, where are you? Why don’t you ask of me?” he wrote.

After the attack on Thursday, Israeli forces shuttered entrances to Bani Naim and raided the home of Mr. Tarayreh’s family. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced after a security meeting that the house would be destroyed and permits allowing the family to work in Israel withdrawn, and that the town would be cordoned off until further notice.

“The horrifying murder of a young girl in her bed underscores the bloodlust and inhumanity of the incitement-driven terrorists that we are facing,” Mr. Netanyahu said in a statement. He appeared to blame Palestinian leaders, accusing them of incitement “that leads to the murder of children in their beds.”

Spokesmen for Palestinian officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment. There were no claims of responsibility for the attack by Palestinian armed groups.

Hallel, the victim, was related to Uri Ariel, Israel’s right-wing housing minister, who is a cousin of Hallel’s father, Israeli news media reported. Mr. Ariel immediately pointed to her death as a call for more settlements in the West Bank, where Israel has maintained a nearly five-decade military occupation.

“It has to be clear that in the absence of a partner, that there will be Israeli sovereignty from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea,” he said after the killing. “We have to employ very tough deterrence measures, such as expulsion of families, ending monetary aid, seizing money.”

“By doing this, and by carrying out a fitting Zionist response by construction and planting, we will bring about more quiet in the region,” he said.

Sari Bashi, the country director for Human Rights Watch in Israel and the Palestinian territories, described the killing as “horrific.”

“There can be no justification, moral or legal, for killing an Israeli child as she sleeps in her bed,” Ms. Bashi said. “As despicable as the killing is, the Israeli government has no authority to punish the attacker’s family members, who committed no crime.”

Follow Diaa Hadid on Twitter @diaahadid.

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[AbdullahD]

Somali Muslim men shot after playing basketball by Caucasian man.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/06/30/bias-motivated-shooting/

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — Minneapolis police on Thursday confirmed they’re investigating the recent shooting of two Muslim men as a possible hate crime.

And on Thursday, the Council on American Islamic Relations is demanding swift action to find those responsible. Police went to 14th Avenue Southeast and 6th Street South early Wednesday morning because someone heard shots.

There were no victims, but police did recover some evidence. A short time later, two people with gunshot wounds showed up at the University of Minnesota hospital.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Somali Muslim men shot after playing basketball by Caucasian man.

That's a pretty weak attempt to drag this thread off topic.

Yea so someone who was allegedly Caucasian allegedly shot at a couple Muslims.  Did you read the story? Some pretty fishy parts in it.

Anyhow 49 people were just blown away in the name of ISIS. 

Keep your eye on the ball.

 

[PuckChaser]

Much like any Muslim shooting someone else, not every white person shooting someone of a different race is a hate crime.

 

[AbdullahD]

That's a pretty weak attempt to drag this thread off topic.

Yea so someone who was allegedly Caucasian allegedly shot at a couple Muslims.  Did you read the story? Some pretty fishy parts in it.

Anyhow 49 people were just blown away in the name of ISIS. 

Keep your eye on the ball.

Uh huh. I forget did you actually reply to me last time I fully engaged you? Did you admit to being wrong last time someone debunked your opinion?

This IS NOT off topic any more then the post about the Palestinian. This is a topic regarding ISLAMIC Terrorism in the West and if you can not connect how perceived oppression or real and true oppression against Muslims is in part fueling terrorism then I can understand why you think I'm dragging this off topic.

Wether this is truly a hate crime or not is actually an academic discussion, but the fact off the matter is hate crimes against Muslims do happen, period and they are in part fuelling terrorism.

Abdullah

PS do note I didn't post something regarding Israel treatment of Palestinians or what have you here, because I feel that is not the "west". So I feel it shouldn't be in the thread unless has a direct connection.

Pss last I checked there was not a confirmed group backing these fools in turkey albeit I'll admit I am not completely up to date.

 

[Loachman]

I just went to my first Iftar dinner tonight, at the invitation of some of my Muslim neighbours, and had a very good time. About half of the attendees were non-Muslim. The food was good and plentiful, and the conversations were excellent. Much of the conversation revolved around the similarities between all people, and much of the rest revolved around the evil that a few perpetrate upon the many - my next-door neighbours are recently-arrived Syrian refugees, a Libyan fellow was sitting at my table, and there is an Egyptian family just down the street, and they've all experienced more of the latter than they'd like. The two oldest boys next door both have jobs already and are learning English quite quickly, and the whole family is thankful to be here and is working hard to fit into Canadian society.

That's all a bit off-topic, I suppose...