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Islamic Terrorism in the West ( Mega thread)

Thucydides said:
Reprise on how to "turn" the population to our side. Certainly nothing we have tried to date seems to have worked:

https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/06/03/counter-terror-lessons-from-americas-civil-war/

Yes, lets apply the violence associated with a total war that killed nearly a million people to incidents that barely register on the richter scale.  The authors thesis is phenomenally stupid. 

This article also ignores the fact that Western Governments have been far more successful at terrorizing Muslims than any Islamic Fundamentalist could ever hope to be.

Religion is always a presence in conflict; however, it isn't the root cause.  That title is reserved exclusively for money and power. 

Take the military blinders off and have a look at the shit we do in the World, everyone has blood on their hands. 

The best we can do is stop the blind hatred, treat everyone with the respect and dignity they deserve.

Nah lets go put the torches to the entire city of Brampton, colloquially known as "Brown Town" by certain folks in the GTA.  Meanwhile, we will suck the tit of a Saudi Prince to save a nickel at the pumps.

The amount of holier than thou, self-absorbed monologue I see and hear everyday disgusts me. 

Here is an idea, next time you see a Muslim walking down the street say hello to them, buy them a cup of coffee, heck maybe even spend time getting to know one, you might be surprised to find out they are actually good people.


 
Meanwhile, in Australia earlier this week while we were all watching London (all links to various Aussie media) ...
More via Google News here.

Meanwhile, in a story associated with the bad guy highlighted above, a win for the good guys ...
"An audacious plot by Islamic extremists for a massive terrorist suicide attack at the Holsworthy Barracks was foiled by a massive surveillance operation by police in 2009.  Investigators at the time believed that had the plot to shoot as many people as possible at one of Australia's biggest army bases succeeded it would have been the worst-ever terrorist attack on home soil.  They managed to thwart the deadly plan for a shooting rampage at the barracks in Sydney's southwest, where thousands of army troops and a major anti-terrorist unit was based, after a lengthy surveillance campaign led to multiple arrests after raids in Melbourne in August 2009.  Yacqub Khayre was one of five men who stood trial in 2010 over the plot but he and one of his co-accused, Abdirahman Ahmed, were acquitted by the Victorian Supreme Court ..."
 
milnews.ca said:
Meanwhile, in Australia earlier this week while we were all watching London (all links to various Aussie media) ...
More via Google News here.

Meanwhile, in a story associated with the bad guy highlighted above, a win for the good guys ...
"An audacious plot by Islamic extremists for a massive terrorist suicide attack at the Holsworthy Barracks was foiled by a massive surveillance operation by police in 2009.  Investigators at the time believed that had the plot to shoot as many people as possible at one of Australia's biggest army bases succeeded it would have been the worst-ever terrorist attack on home soil.  They managed to thwart the deadly plan for a shooting rampage at the barracks in Sydney's southwest, where thousands of army troops and a major anti-terrorist unit was based, after a lengthy surveillance campaign led to multiple arrests after raids in Melbourne in August 2009.  Yacqub Khayre was one of five men who stood trial in 2010 over the plot but he and one of his co-accused, Abdirahman Ahmed, were acquitted by the Victorian Supreme Court ..."


Fake news, guns aren't allowed in Australia.
 
NJ DHS:  ISIL & AQ's been pushing simple attacks on crowds lately ...
Since the beginning of May, al-Qa’ida, as well as its affiliate al-Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP), and ISIS have disseminated new propaganda, encouraging homegrown violent extremists (HVEs) to target large gatherings and outdoor events in the United States during the summer months.
  • In an audio statement released on May 13, Hamza bin Ladin—a son of deceased al-Qa’ida leader Usama bin Ladin—directed followers to AQAP’s English-language magazine, Inspire, which offers tactical guidance to sympathizers, such as choosing low security targets and case studies on past attacks. Hamza also encouraged sympathizers to use “patience” and to “take [the] lead in inflicting losses.”
  • On May 6, AQAP leader Qasim al-Rimi released the group’s first Inspire Address, instructing HVEs in the United States to carry out “easy and simple attacks.” Rimi also encouraged sympathizers to act “the same as our brother Omar Mateen did, he took an AK47 and headed towards their gathering,” referring to the Orlando shooting in June 2016.
  • On May 4, ISIS published the ninth edition of its English-language online magazine, Rumiyah, advising followers to choose “ideal target locations,” which include movie theaters, restaurants, concert halls, and public swimming pools
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U.N.'s latest take:  "Despite pressure and losses, ISIL remains potent threat, UN political chief warns Security Council"
After losing control on population centres and declining financial strength, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL/Da'esh) terrorist group is more focused than ever before on “enabling and inspiring” attacks outside of conflict zones, the top United Nations political official said today.

“The threat from ISIL has been intensified by its use of the Internet and social media to disseminate propaganda online to a wide international audience,” Jeffrey Feltman, the UN Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs, told a Security Council meeting on threats to international peace and security caused by terrorist acts.

“Although the volume of such messages has declined in the past 16 months, the threat persists as supporters outside Syria and Iraq collect and re-distribute this propaganda,” he added.

In Europe, for example, ISIL has used its online presence to encourage supporters to mount attacks in their countries of residence. “This has led to multiple attacks, including in Belgium, France, Germany, the Russian Federation, Sweden, Turkey, and the United Kingdom,” noted Mr. Feltman, adding that while some of those extremists had been labelled “lone actors,” investigations demonstrate that the perpetrators often received support or resources from facilitators and, in a number of cases, were in direct contact with ISIL enablers.

He also noted a decrease in the flow of foreign terrorist fighters and in the overall number of ISIL fighters during the last 16 months but returnees and the relocation of fighters from the conflict zones to other regions now present a considerable – and an increasingly transnational – threat to international security.

At same time, Mr. Feltman also warned that ISIL continues to fund affiliates, while urging them to become more self-sufficient and proactive in developing internal revenue streams ...
More @ link, in meeting summary & attached report
 

Attachments

Mo' bad guys for the U.S.'s bad guy list ...
The Department of State has designated Mohammad Shafi Armar, Oussama Ahmad Atar, and Mohammed Isa Yousif Saqar Al Binali as Specially Designated Global Terrorists (SDGTs) under Section 1(b) of Executive Order (E.O.) 13224, which imposes sanctions on foreign persons determined to have committed, or pose a significant risk of committing, acts of terrorism that threaten the security of U.S. nationals, or the national security, foreign policy, or economy of the United States. As a consequence of these designations, U.S. persons are generally prohibited from engaging in transactions or dealings with Armar, Atar, and Binali, and all of their property and interests in property subject to United States jurisdiction is blocked.

Mohammad Shafi Armar is a leader and head recruiter in India for the Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO) and Specially Designated Global Terrorist (SDGT) group, ISIS. He has cultivated a group of dozens of ISIS sympathizers who are involved in terrorist activities across India, such as plotting attacks, procuring weapons, and identifying locations for terrorist training camps.

Oussama Ahmad Atar is a senior leader of ISIS’s external operations efforts and has established a network to carry out attacks in Europe. He was a leading coordinator of the November 2015 Paris attacks and March 2016 attacks in Brussels. The Belgian-Moroccan national was responsible for recruiting, training, and sending at least some of the individuals to Paris to launch the November 2015 attacks, which killed and injured hundreds, including Americans. He also recruited and mentored two of the bombers involved in the March 2016 Brussels attacks that killed 32 and left many more wounded.

Mohammed Isa Yousif Saqar Al Binali is a senior member of ISIS. Binali departed Bahrain to join the terrorist group in 2014 and has since appeared in multiple ISIS propaganda videos calling on Bahrainis, specifically members of Bahrain’s security forces, to join ISIS ...
... with a bit more granular detail from the Treasury Department here:
The following individuals have been added to OFAC's SDN List:

AL BINALI, Mohammed Isa Yousif Saqar (a.k.a. AL-BINALI, Mohamed Isa; a.k.a. ALBINALI, Mohammad Isa; a.k.a. AL-BINALI, Mohammed; a.k.a. AL-BINALI, Mohammed Isa; a.k.a. "Abu Al Silmi"; a.k.a. "Abu Isa Al Salmi"; a.k.a. "Abu Issa Al-Selmy"); DOB 09 Mar 1991; POB Manama, Bahrain; nationality Bahrain; Gender Male (individual) [SDGT].

AL-KUBAYSI, 'Umar (a.k.a. AL-KUBAYSI ARHAYM, Umar Mahmud; a.k.a. AL-KUBAYSI, Umar Mahmud Rahim; a.k.a. AL-QUBAYSI, Umar Mahmud Rahim; a.k.a. ARHAYM, 'Umar Mahmud; a.k.a. RAHIM, 'Umar Mahmud), al-Qaim, al-Anbar Province, Iraq; DOB 01 Jan 1967; nationality Iraq; Gender Male (individual) [SDGT] (Linked To: ISLAMIC STATE OF IRAQ AND THE LEVANT).

ARMAR, Mohammad Shafi (a.k.a. ARMAR, Mohammed Shafi; a.k.a. ARMAR, Safi; a.k.a. ARMAR, Shafi; a.k.a. "Anjan Bhai"; a.k.a. "Chote Maula"; a.k.a. "Yousouf al-Hindi"; a.k.a. "Yousuf-Al Hindi"; a.k.a. "Yusuf al-Hindi"), Syria; DOB 1989 to 1991; POB Bhatkal, Karnataka, India; Gender Male (individual) [SDGT].

ATAR, Oussama Ahmad (a.k.a. ATAR, Oussama; a.k.a. ATAR, Usama; a.k.a. ATTAR, Usama), Raqqa, Syria; DOB 1983 to 1985; POB Belgium; nationality Belgium; alt. nationality Morocco; Gender Male (individual) [SDGT] ...
 
Here in Canada ...
A 29-year-old Quebec man has been found guilty of attempting to leave Canada to commit terrorist acts.

Ismael Habib is the first adult tried under a section of Canada's Anti-terrorism Act enacted by the former Stephen Harper government in 2013.

During the ​trial, it was revealed that Habib told an undercover RCMP officer posing as a crime boss peddling fake passports that it was his "duty" to fight jihad alongside ISIS in Syria.

He also confessed to whipping a prisoner on a 2013 trip to Syria. Those confessions were taped by RCMP officers.

In a decision read out Monday afternoon in Quebec Court, Judge Serge Délisle questioned Habib's testimony that he had left Canada in 2013 seeking to be with his family.

Délisle said that was inconsistent with how he went online looking for girlfriend ...
 
Some more Allah-ackbaring. Police officer stabbed in the back and neck.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40360428
 
Jarnhamar said:
Some more Allah-ackbaring. Police officer stabbed in the back and neck.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40360428

The thing I don't get is, if Allah is so Akbar, why does he need these numpties to do his dirty work? I mean, the Judeo-Christian version took responsibility for the job with the great flood, with an almost 100% success rate. If I was all Akbar, I think I'd rather deploy my own Interdimensional Ballistic Lightning Bolts than entrust the job to a bunch of mental defectives.
 
Jarnhamar said:
Some more Allah-ackbaring. Police officer stabbed in the back and neck.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40360428
Latest from the FBI ...
FBI Statement on Incident at Flint's Bishop International Airport

This morning, law enforcement officers from a number of organizations, including the FBI’s office in Flint, Michigan, responded to Flint’s Bishop International Airport after receiving the report of a stabbing of an airport police officer who is presently considered to be in stable condition.

The suspect was taken into custody at the airport and is currently being questioned by law enforcement officers.

The FBI, with our local, state, and federal law enforcement partners, is jointly investigating this incident to determine the nature and motive for the attack. We are aware of reports that the attacker made statements immediately prior to or while attacking the officer, but it is too early to determine the nature of these alleged statements or whether or not this was an act of terrorism.

Based on the information that we have at this time, we believe this to be an isolated incident. We currently have no specific, credible information that there is a threat to the Flint community.

If you have any information about this incident, please call the FBI’s Detroit Field Office at (313) 965-2323 or submit information at tips.fbi.gov.
... and NBC News:
An officer for Bishop International Airport was stabbed Wednesday in a possible terror-related incident in Flint, Michigan, sources told NBC News.

The attacker allegedly shouted "Allahu akbar" before stabbing Lieutenant Jeff Neville, who was bleeding from the neck, sources and witnesses at Bishop International Airport said.

Neville is a member of the airport's Department of Public Safety and a retired Genesee County Sheriff’s Department lieutenant.

Law enforcement officials said the suspect is from Quebec and has a Canadian passport ...
Prepare the "the 9-11 guys didn't come in via Canada" disclaimer ...
 
I called the Ackbarring, "spouting gibberish"  to my wife.  She explained that if you say it 3 times right before you snuff it, you get into Paradise.  Goes to explain all the gibbering in any of their videos where it seems to be a contest on who can say it the most and fastest...
 
FBI Statement on Incident at Flint's Bishop International Airport

This morning, law enforcement officers from a number of organizations, including the FBI’s office in Flint, Michigan, responded to Flint’s Bishop International Airport after receiving the report of a stabbing of an airport police officer who is presently considered to be in stable condition.

The suspect was taken into custody at the airport and is currently being questioned by law enforcement officers.

The FBI, with our local, state, and federal law enforcement partners, is jointly investigating this incident to determine the nature and motive for the attack. We are aware of reports that the attacker made statements immediately prior to or while attacking the officer, but it is too early to determine the nature of these alleged statements or whether or not this was an act of terrorism.

Based on the information that we have at this time, we believe this to be an isolated incident. We currently have no specific, credible information that there is a threat to the Flint community.

If you have any information about this incident, please call the FBI’s Detroit Field Office at (313) 965-2323 or submit information at tips.fbi.gov.


It must be an isolated incident. If you wanted to cause mass casualties in Flint, you'd mess with the water supply. Oh, wait.
 
US media is reporting that the guy entered the USA legally from Canada:

CNN _
The suspect, Amor Ftouhi, a 50-year-old native of Canada, ......
FOX -
The Canadian citizen was motivated to come to the airport and conduct this act of violence out of a "hated of the United States," according to FBI Special Agent Gelios. He legally entered the U.S. at Lake Champlain in New York on June 16, and then made his way to Flint, according to Gelios.
 
More Allah-ackbaring but with a happy ending.
Dummy tries to blow himself up at an airport in Brussels (aledgedly targeting soldiers) but just turns himself into a flaming marshmallow.

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/06/brussels-bomber-immigrant/
 
Jarnhamar said:
More Allah-ackbaring but with a happy ending.
Dummy tries to blow himself up at an airport in Brussels (aledgedly targeting soldiers) but just turns himself into a flaming marshmallow.

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/06/brussels-bomber-immigrant/
Own goal!
 
Rifleman62 said:
US media is reporting that the guy entered the USA legally from Canada:

CNN _
The suspect, Amor Ftouhi, a 50-year-old native of Canada, ......
FOX -
The Canadian citizen was motivated to come to the airport and conduct this act of violence out of a "hated of the United States," according to FBI Special Agent Gelios. He legally entered the U.S. at Lake Champlain in New York on June 16, and then made his way to Flint, according to Gelios.
... with more initial details in the attached Complaint ... (source)
 

Attachments

>The FBI, with our local, state, and federal law enforcement partners, is jointly investigating this incident to determine the nature and motive for the attack.

I suppose sometimes it takes more than 8 minutes.
 
Jarnhamar said:
More Allah-ackbaring but with a happy ending.
Dummy tries to blow himself up at an airport in Brussels (aledgedly targeting soldiers) but just turns himself into a flaming marshmallow.

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/06/brussels-bomber-immigrant/

The Darwin is strong with this one...
 
Flavus101 said:
I hope charges come swiftly and the "leadership" of that localities religious institution is removed.


Unfortunately, I don't suspect dethroning 'preachers' will happen any time soon for one reason. The overwhelming issue is that in Islam there is no central authority (akin to the Vatican for Catholics) that regulates the dissemination of Islamic scripture; there are a number of competing—all of which incessantly fight for influence—'schools' of Islamic jurisprudence, and they either slightly or starkly vary in their takes on the meaning of scripture. Some are Maliki, Jafari, Ibadi, Hanbali; Hanbali in particular includes—although some reject this—Wahhabism (the most extreme doctrine, resulting in distortions of jihadism, tied to Saudi Arabia; some conspiracy theories insist that Wahhabism was invented within the Hanbali in the early 20th century by architects of Zionism seeking to weaken support for Palestinians, but—although Wahhabism is a notable divergence from work of early Hanbalites—these theories are largely baseless).

The lack of a central authority presents a problem because, then, preachers who preach distorted and fundamentally-incompatible interpretations of 'jihad', and expressly call for violence and terror rather than peaceful coexistence, face no risk of being punished or excommunicated (unlike the Vatican, which can excommunicate Catholic priests that refuse to faithfully abide by accepted interpretations of the New Testament in their sermons). So, the net result is that there are a range of preachers across the Islamic world who give sermons of varying degrees—anything from generosity, tolerance and coexistence to violent and anti-West jihad; and there is no methodical and consistent means of challenging their 'authority' within the religion itself; only the state can do this, but doing so in the West is tricky and may cause alienation.

In light of recent attacks, I think a number of remedies are in order:

<1>  Sensationalist media or tabloid papers, such as the Sun Media in Canada and the Daily Mail in the UK, need to quit catering to their readers' vulnerabilities, particularly evoking widespread fear and stoking hatred with their publications. That's a haphazard way to inform the public in their quest for solutions. I imagine, a lot of Daily Mail readers would support responses that include mass deportation, mass internment, or even, ethnic cleansing (which, I'm sure have recalled, has been attempted before, regrettably). Internment or deportation would obviously be effective in the short term; but they will actually only deepen the alienation and will turn out to be more destructive. Ultimately, the scale of destruction in the aftermath could amount to ethnic cleansing. I would not call this out of the question because I have noticed that there is, at least online, a lot of nihilism and regression back to primitive, survivalist, responses to these perceived threats; the evolutionary adaption that allowed humans to be hypersocial and gave them the gift of reasoning—i.e. the neocortex or outer-most layer of the brain—is being bypassed with these responses. It's regrettable, but very human. These are the vulnerabilities of readers I am speaking of; to be clear, this first recommendation is for sensationalist media to guard against them when they are composing their writing.

<2> I think tackling online radicalization, as the UK's embattled PM, Theresa May, briefly remarked, is a step in the right direction (despite the objections that may come from net neutrality advocates), but I don't think an online 'campaign' against radicalization goes far enough. The root cause of these heinous crimes is marginalization and alienation. It all begins with marginalization and alienation. There needs to be local, community-based, support programs and social initiatives to prevent marginalization; these need to come from both government and faith communities, and the government programs certainly need to include mental health.

<3>  One particular remedy falls on the Muslim community. Muslims need to stop attending sermons and establishments run by preachers who preach these distorted versions or far-fetched interpretations. Why this is not happening sooner, I have yet to grasp. I imagine it has to do with laziness and culturally-ingrained lack of political enthusiasm from various North African and Middle Eastern communities. Sooner or later, I figure, they will get moving.

<4>  Finally, non-Muslims really need to try to resist the urge to generalize. They need to be reminded that terrorism is not limited to Islam and hasn't suddenly appeared in the 21st Century out of a void. It has been around for a very long time, as University of Chicago professor Robert Pape pointed out, and in various political and religious contexts. There are Buddhists groups who engaged in terrorism for religious causes. There is the present-day PKK in Turkey; France's right-wing La Cagoule at the outset and during WWII; and Canada's own, now-defunct, FLQ; who all used violence towards political ends—the definition of terrorism. It is inconceivable for 1.3 billion to be held accountable for the actions of a fraction of 'bad apples.' Much in the same way, Catholics are not violent and oppressive, or blameworthy, for the bombings by IRA militants and other religiously- and politically-motivated attacks against Protestant unionists; and, further, Protestants are not accountable for the religiously- and politically-motivated attacks against Catholics, perpetrated by the Ulster Defense Association militants who are Protestant; nor are Catholics accountable for the same attacks, and assassination of English royal and cousin to Queen Elizabeth II, namely, Lord Mountbatten, perpetrated by the IRA militants. Note that they are politically-motivated because unionists are a political group (they support the preservation of the union of Northern Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales) and religiously motivated because Protestants are a sect and oppose the other sect, Catholics, who account for the opposing political movement—Irish Republicanism (the separation of Northern Ireland from the United Kingdom in favor of a united Irish republic).

Interestingly, at one point in ancient history (around 5-600 AD), there was a school of Murjites (or 'the Postponers'), which was the most lenient school. As you may have imagined from their name, the Murjites believed in postponing any sort of judgment against a person until his/her end of life, when s/he comes before God in the afterlife (N.B.: I am just recalling what they believed; I don't necessarily share those beliefs). Their crux of their teachings is that there is only one judge of a person's deeds or misdeeds, and that judge is God; no human being can take God's role. Murjites, thus, would oppose labeling anyone a 'heretic' and oppose present-day Sharia courts that routinely pass judgment and dole out punishments against convicted 'heretics;' they would oppose violent Jihad because it is, by its nature, judgmental; in essence, they would oppose any act that harms a person in response to their beliefs because it would require judgment. Unfortunately, their influence quickly dwindled when, in later periods (by as early as 8-900 AD, I think), harsher and competing schools gained influence and deemed the Murjites, and their followers, 'heretics' and had the lot of them executed (ironically, in doing so, adherents of those opposing schools passed judgment against the Murjites and inflicted punishment). Apart from deferring judgment, Murjites also believed that any adherent to the faith who began taking steps to carry out a grave sin, such as murder, relinquished his/her status as an adherent.

A disclosure: I am of Muslim heritage and was raised by very lenient Muslim parents; but I identify as an agnostic and don't practice.
 
Thucydides said:
Reprise on how to "turn" the population to our side. Certainly nothing we have tried to date seems to have worked:

https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/06/03/counter-terror-lessons-from-americas-civil-war/

It concerns me that you've cited this dangerous diatribe written by Goldman. He's recalling history for solutions to complex problems and relying on brutes like Phil Sheridan; Sheridan, by all accounts, is brute who subscribes to the primitive view that might makes right. I can find many contemporaries like him: the infamous Donald J. Trump, for one; another is recently-elected GOP congressman Greg Gianforte, who, instead of skillfully navigating difficult questions from journalists as Pierre Elliot Trudeau was known for (par exemple), he physically assaults them and goes on a rant about their tough questions. Trudeau (Sr.) was an admirable statesman; Gianforte is a brute who represents maladapted aggression.

Goldman should be ashamed for advocating brutish and blatantly unlawful tactics. He should be ashamed for recalling and praising tactics by Sheridan, whose strategy to deal with Confederacy snipers would now constitute serious crimes prosecutable under the Rome Statute. Did Goldman forget that pillaging is a war crime, and prosecutable, during wartime—it would be unconscionable to venture that route during peacetime. He should be particularly ashamed for giving the appearance that alienating swaths of peaceful Muslims with denigrating and inhumane tactics that, he thinks, is the silver bullet to our pressing problems, just because deranged Phil Sheridan succeeded in his time; on the contrary, it will—with scant doubt—contribute to the very problem of radicalization, rather than address it. It seems the awakening of the human conscience after the Holocaust has not benefitted him, for he is calling us to regress to Sheridan's level; Sheridan probably knew no bounds and would probably regress further to primordial, medieval pre-Enlightenment and cruelty.

His essay distilled, Goldman seems to think it's entirely reasonable and proper for a teacher to penalize the entire class for the lone thief who refuses to disclose himself and the few classmates who may know of him; there's something profoundly cruel about punishing bystanders, after accusing them of harboring or facilitating the perpetrator, to find the concealed hoodlum among them. I am gobsmacked by his audacity to pen that dangerous idea; I am also concerned that a member of our venerated military cited it rather approvingly.

 
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