Islamic Terrorism in the West ( Mega thread)

[mariomike]

Look at our immigration policies, AND look at who was actually allowed in. A lot of FAMs were allowed in.

Immigration politics is one thing. But, I do take the occasional glance at Toronto's Most Wanted list, in case I recognise someone.

Regardless of immigration status.

They may have left town. If you see any of these guys, call it in.

Most Wanted- Toronto Police Service

www.tps.ca

 

[RangerRay]

My latest: first they came for the Jews

Musings

warrenkinsella.com

 

[Kirkhill]

Perfectly normal behaviour

https://twitter.com/x/status/1736550028036984976

Deport them to gaza to their Islamic utopia.

Plan A.


Here is Plan B

Police urged to enforce harassment and intimidation laws after MPs face rise in threats, vandalism

Leaders say they have seen an upsurge in abusive ad intimidating calls and e-mails, for expressing support for Israel

www.theglobeandmail.com

An RCMP officer removes protesters, who were calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, from a hotel ballroom in Ottawa where Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was to participate in a Liberal Party fundraising event, on Nov. 21. The Prime Minister was not in the room when several protesters entered.JUSTIN TANG/THE CANADIAN PRESS




If it can be done to protect politicians surely it can be done to protect shoppers.

 

[RangerRay]

I read the G&M article. So, the Liberals publicly called for the unconditional ceasefire by Israel, yet Team Hamas are still infuriated by the Liberals and are demanding they do what they did.

What more is Team Hamas expecting from the government? Have the CAF invade Israel?

Fucking loons…

 

[YZT580]

Plan A.


Here is Plan B

Police urged to enforce harassment and intimidation laws after MPs face rise in threats, vandalism

Leaders say they have seen an upsurge in abusive ad intimidating calls and e-mails, for expressing support for Israel

www.theglobeandmail.com

An RCMP officer removes protesters, who were calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, from a hotel ballroom in Ottawa where Prime Minister Justin Trudeau was to participate in a Liberal Party fundraising event, on Nov. 21. The Prime Minister was not in the room when several protesters entered.JUSTIN TANG/THE CANADIAN PRESS

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If it can be done to protect politicians surely it can be done to protect shoppers.

we asked for it. When I got the strap at school, I could count on getting it at home as well. Consequently, being allergic to pain, I tried to avoid getting the strap. Human rights groups took school boards to court in order to ban corporal punishment. Parents were taught that corporal punishment was cruel and inhumane. Now there is no discipline in schools instead, some schools have security guards on duty to help control the mob. Ask women teachers in a mixed heritage school about the support or lack of it from Muslim fathers and how that is reflected in their son's behaviour. Parents have kids that openly defy them. (not all of course and probably not a majority but certainly a significant number) Riots in the shopping malls are just a logical consequence.

 

[Kirkhill]

I read the G&M article. So, the Liberals publicly called for the unconditional ceasefire by Israel, yet Team Hamas are still infuriated by the Liberals and are demanding they do what they did.

What more is Team Hamas expecting from the government? Have the CAF invade Israel?

Fucking loons…

It makes sense if the goal is disruption.

 

[RangerRay]

It makes sense if the goal is disruption.

Disruption generally doesn’t win supporters though. It tends to set people against you.

 

[Kirkhill]

Disruption generally doesn’t win supporters though. It tends to set people against you.

But suppose you don't care if the disruptors are hated? All you want is that they disrupt, hinder, harass and annoy.

 

[RangerRay]

But suppose you don't care if the disruptors are hated? All you want is that they disrupt, hinder, harass and annoy.

People will demand that liberals enforce the law or they will elect illiberals who will.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Immigration politics is one thing. But, I do take the occasional glance at Toronto's Most Wanted list, in case I recognise someone.

Regardless of immigration status.

They may have left town. If you see any of these guys, call it in.

Most Wanted- Toronto Police Service

www.tps.ca

Interesting as you can see shifts in the pattern of who's wanted as the years go by.

 

[brihard]

Perfectly normal behaviour

https://twitter.com/x/status/1736550028036984976

Deport them to gaza to their Islamic utopia.

How do get away with openly threatening to kill a police officer??????

I think he was threatening someone else, it looked like police were keeping a dividing line between the protest group and either bystanders or counter protesters.

Look at the tactical situation the couple officers are in there. With what we’re limited to seeing, to me that’s not the circumstances to try to force an arrest. You’re probably just going to end up with a brawl and potentially much greater harm, and you probably won’t be succesful in the arrest either. There’s video everywhere; if possible you try to ID for subsequent arrest and charges when they’re no longer in the powder keg. Sometimes in a public order situation you have to accept that not everything will be actionable and some people will get away with some stuff. This is a very volatile situation in a crappy setting.

So CCC§264.1 is…unenforceable?

Criminal Code

Federal laws of Canada

laws-lois.justice.gc.ca

Honestly I see that answer as a bit of a cop out (pun intended). To retain public order sometimes one needs to act with speed, surprise and violence of action.

I’m of the experience that very few people will actively resist an aggressive Police action - especially if they know they are going to get hickory shampoo’d if they do.

No, but pretty much any offense not involving actual immediate injury may not be wise to try to enforce in the moment.



Yeah, but if you’re gonna go violent on public order enforcement, you’d better have what you need in place.

An event like this would be run by a critical incident commander, who also likely had given specific direction about thresholds for arrest or other enforcement action in order to have a firm grip on what’s happening big picture.

I agree that what we saw here was all kinds of wrong. I just don’t think these officers, in this situation, were in a good place to try to take enforcement action given the totality of the situation. There are lots of ways this could have gotten worse from a simple spark like that. I hope that for future protests, police posture is ramped up so that they can act more decisively.

following up on the Eaton Centre events: “six foot deep” guy and one of his compatriots have been identified and arrested, and a search warrant executed that found useful evidence- my guess is matching clothing.

Police charge man in connection with December pro-Palestinian demonstration inside Toronto mall

A man has been charged and arrested in connection with a pro-Palestinian demonstration inside a mall in downtown Toronto last month, according to police.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

Much of what I was saying earlier on this has been validated.

 

[KevinB]

following up on the Eaton Centre events: “six foot deep” guy and one of his compatriots have been identified and arrested, and a search warrant executed that found useful evidence- my guess is matching clothing.

Police charge man in connection with December pro-Palestinian demonstration inside Toronto mall

A man has been charged and arrested in connection with a pro-Palestinian demonstration inside a mall in downtown Toronto last month, according to police.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

Much of what I was saying earlier on this has been validated.

All well and good, but how does that help folks who were inconvenienced or felt threatened from the display that day?

 

[Halifax Tar]

All well and good, but how does that help folks who were inconvenienced or felt threatened from the display that day?

They don't matter. In Canada there is more concern for the criminals than the victims.

 

[brihard]

All well and good, but how does that help folks who were inconvenienced or felt threatened from the display that day?

It’s recognized in law that protests will likely cause inconvenience. That’s often part of the point, and has been accepted as part do the necessary trade off for safeguarding expression on matters of politics, conscience, etc.

People feeling threatened is obviously a few steps beyond inconvenience. Some of that has resulted in charges, some in changes to TPS’ tolerance for and response to such protests. There is no perfect answer to this dilemma.

But, two assholes who clearly crossed lines have been charged, in the manner I described could happen.

 

[Rifleman62]

Quick Bail, released on their own recognizance. Charge Police with racism.

 

[YZT580]

Quick Bail, released on their own recognizance. Charge Police with racism.

in full keeping with policy. It is only truck drivers that are denied bail.

 

[OldSolduer]

in full keeping with policy. It is only truck drivers that are denied bail.

As per the GoC laws that are in place.

 

[CountDC]

Quick Bail, released on their own recognizance. Charge Police with racism.

and the government pay out of a few million for the poor lads.

 

[KevinB]

and the government pay out of a few million for the poor lads.

Justin Trudeau has given me PTSD.

 

[The Bread Guy]

This one doesn't seem to be getting a lot of lead-story attention - 2021 Missisauga fast-food place shooting linked to ISIS?

WARMINGTON: Accused murderer in Chicken Land shooting had ISIS videos on cellphone, court hears

This disturbing Chicken Land shooting case is also about the alleged role radical Islamic terrorism played.

torontosun.com

WARMINGTON: Jury hears 2021 Chicken Land killing was by three men linked to ISIS

Turns out the terrifying wild shooting murder of family and staff at a popular Mississauga restaurant was also allegedly connected to Islamic terror.

torontosun.com

Group tied to Islamic State plotted fatal Ontario restaurant shooting: Crown

A gunman who is accused of killing a young Ontario man and shooting four of his family members at their small Mississauga restaurant in 2021 was allegedly part of a trio who had pledged allegiance to the listed terrorist group Islamic State, a Crown attorney said in an opening statement in the...

toronto.ctvnews.ca

Ontario shooting motivated by victim’s alleged betrayal of ISIS supporters: Crown | Globalnews.ca

The Crown gave their opening address at the trial of three men accused in the fatal shooting at a Mississauga restaurant, saying the trio had pledged allegiance to ISIS.

globalnews.ca