Islamic Terrorism in the West ( Mega thread)

[brihard]

From the FBI: "... a Mint Hill, North Carolina man that allegedly planned to use knives and hammers to execute a deadly New Year’s Eve attack at a grocery store and a fast food restaurant in support of the Islamic State in Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) has been arrested and charged with attempting to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization ..."
A bit more here:

US authorities arrest 18-year-old accused of plotting ISIL-inspired attack

Officials announced the suspect has been charged with attempting to provide 'material support' for 'terrorism'.

www.aljazeera.com

FBI disrupts alleged ISIS-inspired New Year’s Eve attack plot targeting NC grocery store, fast food restaurant

Prosecutors say Christian Sturdivant, 18, of Mint Hill, N.C., allegedly plotted an attack on New Year's Eve in support of the Islamic State terrorist group.

www.foxnews.com

FBI says it foiled 18-year-old’s ISIS-inspired New Year’s Eve ‘terror attack’ in North Carolina

An 18-year-old Burger King worker from North Carolina was “prepared for death” as he plotted a New Year’s Eve terrorist attack on a local grocery store and fast food joint, offici…

nypost.com

FBI says it disrupted a potential New Year's Eve attack inspired by Islamic State group

The FBI said Friday it disrupted a New Year’s Eve attack plot targeting a grocery store and fast-food restaurant in North Carolina, arresting an 18-year-old man who authorities say pledged loyalty to the Islamic State group.

www.pbs.org

So they literally stopped Hammer Time.

 

[OldSolduer]

So they literally stopped Hammer Time.

There was a guy in Bosnia in an asylum. Iirc he was Pablo the Hammer Killer. I think his count was seven

 

[CBH99]

I would dearly love for Ontario to eliminate its parochial school system and public support for other schools, but it is political Kryptonite because there are no votes in it for any party.

Maybe there could be, though?

If worded/presented the right way, and if the benefits are well articulated, perhaps the elimination of such support could be used to attract some additional votes?



(I'm incredibly ignorant of Ontario's internal political scene, and have no idea of the 'substance' of the issue. But chances are if you're thinking about it, others are too.)

 

[lenaitch]

Maybe there could be, though?

If worded/presented the right way, and if the benefits are well articulated, perhaps the elimination of such support could be used to attract some additional votes?



(I'm incredibly ignorant of Ontario's internal political scene, and have no idea of the 'substance' of the issue. But chances are if you're thinking about it, others are too.)

I honestly don't know the public view on the topic. It really hasn't been platform issue in years. Unless they see a strong public support, no political party is going to touch this third rail, no matter how well articulated the position is.

Two things drive political platforms: ideology and vote calculations.

Which politician was it who said an election is no time to discuss complex issues?

 

[The Bread Guy]

I honestly don't know the public view on the topic. It really hasn't been platform issue in years. Unless they see a strong public support, no political party is going to touch this third rail, no matter how well articulated the position is.

Yup. If Team Blue, a party usually more unafraid of taking broadly unpopular stances to save money than Team Red, didn't do it in Ontario, nor Team Orange (admittedly short tenure) based in those days on a bit of an anti-organized-religion vibe, it ain't ever going to be done.

 

[YZT580]

What is there about the public school system that is so wonderful? There is no discipline and the achievement levels are sub-par. They are dominated by Dewey concepts and controlled by the unions which have a very left wing agenda with which they have been successfully indoctrinating students for decades now although they are less successful in teaching maths and english. The evidence is in the riots and protests at various universities along with the results on standardized testing. Percentage wise private and catholic schools place more students in universities so why do you want to abolish funding for the better system? Genuinely curious.

 

[Kirkhill]

What is there about the public school system that is so wonderful? There is no discipline and the achievement levels are sub-par. They are dominated by Dewey concepts and controlled by the unions which have a very left wing agenda with which they have been successfully indoctrinating students for decades now although they are less successful in teaching maths and english. The evidence is in the riots and protests at various universities along with the results on standardized testing. Percentage wise private and catholic schools place more students in universities so why do you want to abolish funding for the better system? Genuinely curious.

Public schools and public librairies went hand in hand. They were the embodiment of the Reformation. Everybody had access to information and was free to draw their own conclusions. And people were free to voice their opinions.

The Catholic school system in protestant countries was established to protect the flock and control access to ideas. It was justified on the basis of family having the right to raise their children according to their own beliefs.

For protestant parents this largely meant a tendency towards individualism. For Catholic parents this largely meant conforming to their community's beliefs.

The system worked well as long as schools were controlled by the communities they served. The system failed when the local schools were "nationalized" by the provinces on the grounds of equality of opportunity demanding equal funding and then the teachers' guilds took over.

The Catholic schools still serve their community,
The public schools serve the teachers' guilds.