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[Short and Stout]

Hi all,

What is everyone's thoughts for members who've already burned all annual and family obligation days and it's only September? Now what about situations between now till March 31: they call in sick, their kids are sick, they have appointments. What is your give? Do you give 1+ sick days automatically, give 2 short, always provide admin time for RVs? Just want to do the best for our members but be fair. Plus, I'm jaded and may need to change my old way views. Thanks all.

 

[PuckChaser]

If theyve been allowed to burn all their annual thats a leadership failure. Christmas leave minimums should have been protected.

If the member looks like they're abusing call in days, order them to the CDU, no more phone ins.

 

[Quirky]

Hi all,

What is everyone's thoughts for members who've already burned all annual and family obligation days and it's only September? Now what about situations between now till March 31: they call in sick, their kids are sick, they have appointments. What is your give? Do you give 1+ sick days automatically, give 2 short, always provide admin time for RVs? Just want to do the best for our members but be fair. Plus, I'm jaded and may need to change my old way views. Thanks all.

You go to work everyday until April 1st.

One year I “burned” through all my leave, except a few for Xmas break, before Nov 1st. The world didn’t end.

 

[Infanteer]

Just want to do the best for our members but be fair.

Doing what's "best for the member" does not entail giving the member unauthorized leave because they got an extra long summer holiday.

 

[Lumber]

If theyve been allowed to burn all their annual thats a leadership failure. Christmas leave minimums should have been protected.

If the member looks like they're abusing call in days, order them to the CDU, no more phone ins.

Yea I don't understand how their supervisor would have approved them burning up the last of their leaving knowing that Christmas usually requires 2-6 days (depending on unit and the members desires).

Hi all,

What is everyone's thoughts for members who've already burned all annual and family obligation days and it's only September? Now what about situations between now till March 31: they call in sick, their kids are sick, they have appointments. What is your give? Do you give 1+ sick days automatically, give 2 short, always provide admin time for RVs? Just want to do the best for our members but be fair. Plus, I'm jaded and may need to change my old way views. Thanks all.

And how did they actually use all 5 "family obligation days" (actually called "Short Leave(Family-related obligations)"? For many of those occasions for which that leave is warranted, supervisors simply "let their members go". I don't think I've ever seen or heard of people using/receiving this type of leave.

What's "admin time for 'RV'?

 

[Halifax Tar]

This reeks of leadership failure.

 

[Haggis]

If the member looks like they're abusing call in days, order them to the CDU, no more phone ins.

I have done that in the past. The member was "cured" very quickly.

I considered adding "MD" to my signature block.

 

[Halifax Tar]

There is no entitlement to call in sick. Leadership can order a subordinate to sick bay.

We let people get away with this too much.

 

[Furniture]

We let people get away with this too much.

I suspect it varies by unit quite a bit. I've only seen it abused in one case.

 

[Quirky]

Leadership and order a subordinate to sick bay.

Where the MIR follows CAF-set policies and members get a week off.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Where the MIR follows CAF-set policies and members get a week off.

There is that... But you can establish a pattern and take administrative action with that.

 

[Jarnhamar]

knowing that Christmas usually requires 2-6 days

This is an easy fix.

If a soldier doesn't have enough annual leave to take off 2 or 3 weeks at Christmas then they can simply go to work.

Lots of Canadians work over Christmas.

 

[Lumber]

This is an easy fix.

If a soldier doesn't have enough annual leave to take off 2 or 3 weeks at Christmas then they can simply go to work.

Lots of Canadians work over Christmas.

Not so easy. Some units literally lock their doors for two weeks during which period the members still needed 1 day of annual leave to take those two weeks off.

 

[markppcli]

Not so easy. Some units literally lock their doors for two weeks during which period the members still needed 1 day of annual leave to take those two weeks off.

They can report to the base duty centre.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Not so easy. Some units literally lock their doors for two weeks during which period the members still needed 1 day of annual leave to take those two weeks off.

What's stopping a unit from having said member with no leave being responsible to open and close the building during those two weeks, or whatever days they have to work? You could even have them show up for PT then dismiss themselves for the day afterwards if you're feeling particularly giving.

 

[Lumber]

They can report to the base duty centre.

What's a base duty centre? I dont think we have those in Halifax...

 

[Lumber]

What's stopping a unit from having said member with no leave being responsible to open and close the building during those two weeks, or whatever days they have to work? You could even have them show up for PT then dismiss themselves for the day afterwards if you're feeling particularly giving.

What's PT? Asking for a navy friend.

 

[OldSolduer]

Lots of Canadians work over Christmas.

Until this year I was one of them

 

[Halifax Tar]

What's a base duty centre? I dont think we have those in Halifax...

That's basically the base Chiefs office since that's the office that runs base duties.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Side note, is there security on ships in port? If so who's responsible for it?