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I'm both confused by this response and confused by your original discontent.
Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???
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IKnowNothing
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Vacation money for the affluent =/= life saving medical care.
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IF the CPC had simply listened to some of their remaining PC MP’s, they might have nipped this in the bud.
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Michael Chong as the leader of an unofficial "PC Caucus" playing kingmaker/influencer to a Carney lead government..?
No way. His riding wasn’t remotely close. Strong CPC stronghold. If he crosses he’s done. He’s probably in a better position to be more influential if the CPC makes a bit of a post-Poilievre ideological shift.
Michael Chong as the leader of an unofficial "PC Caucus" playing kingmaker/influencer to a Carney lead government..
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Sorry - strong PC stronghold, there’s a difference.
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Yeah, that's fair. But he is closer to the center than many others in the CPC
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Any CPC members just feeling like calling it quits? Because if they dont care that the riding wont stay rdd, they might do it anyway
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Don't look at me. I think we deserve 4 years of a Liberal majority
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Are you "them"?
Regardless, I wasn't trying to make this about them or us. I was actually hoping for more posts/comments from the "LPC Hater" crowd so that I would get to hear/see the content of this budget from a different lens.
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Aka manly men. Rog
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I view it as a PC leader of the Liberal Party.Don't look at me. I think we deserve 4 years of a Liberal majority
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That's wild, thanks. It's kind of impressive when you see really old lines get replaced and they are something like wood pipes with oakum seals.
What's crazy is some of the really old victorian area pipes are still in use in the UK, but they are these really well built brick masterpieces with some kind of special firing and some artisitic flourishes that most of the world will never see because it's way underground and full of sewage, and there are all kinds of abandoned subway stations in NYC, and other spots around the world from the same era that are just gorgeous with all kinds on beautiful carvings, cast metal accents on gates, benches etc and elaborate mosaic tiles..
And some of the pumphouses are just absolute works of functional art; I miss when things were built really well, but also looked good. Really like how a lot of places kept it up with manhole covers too; was recently in Vancouver and they have what looks like a commissioned art relief of 3 orcas in a Pacific FN style on them.
The Story of London’s Sewer System
Would be pretty funny to fast forward 20,000 years or so and if people are still around see what they make of all the weird things they excavate. Some of these sewers and other underground places may be mistaken for places of worship due to the level of time, effort and craftsmanship expended, while a lot of the modern concrete minimalist places will be long ground into dust.
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I feel like more Liberals care about Poilievre being done than the financial state of Canada.
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The meme reflected my feelings- it would be too good to be true, I'm in no way predicting it as likely. That being said...
A. CPC strong hold or Michael Chong stronghold? He won 2004 ~43-38, since then it's only ever been close in 2015
B. If a floor crossing created an LPC majority, he'd be 57 with 24 years as an MP under his belt by the time the next election rolls around. For a guy that was once on the leadership track, weighing 3.5 years working with a competent, borderline PC PM, actually influencing the governance of the country might be worth it relative to spending however long on the bench watching the PP Yapyap show.
Two big assumptions there.
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I feel like you can care about the financial state of Canada, while still hate PP for being a know nothing, professional politician who is only in it for personal power and adoration, and will flip flop with whatever opinion he thinks will get him elected. He cares less about financial state of Canada then being PM, and seems less conservative in real terms than the career banker running the LPC.
You can call yourself Conservative, but still piss money away like a drunken sailor on pork barreling just like you can as a Liberal or whatever, and it's hard to take a guy who's never had a real job and was elected in his mid 20s right out of uni as a blue collar champion, when his starter job paid six figures, with not much to show for 20 years at it. He's a charlatan at best who runs out of ideas after 'pithy slogans' and 'smug expression with a sneer of disapproval'. Harper was unlikable, but at least consistent and principled, so you knew what you were getting, even if you didn't necessarily agree with him.
I followed an old link to his pre-2025 riding; you’re right that redistribution made it a lot closer, and Chong’s tenure and prominence has to be worth several points. Still unlikely IMO but I cannot say it as absolutely as I initially did.
Concur. No way he would survive defections resulting in an LPC majority.
That’s a fair point. I have no idea if that would be palatable to him.
Just hypotheticals. I’m not gauging likelihood.
But you can bet your ass every politically connected reporter in Canada is working like mad to try to identify other potential defectors for a morning scoop.
