Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Remius]

I turned down a PS offer yesterday. I don't like what the horizon looks like over there, and with the new pay and bennies it makes more sense to top up my last 5.

Looks like the new pay and benefits is doing exactly what it was implemented for. You are one of quite a few I know that are looking to remain to get their best 5.

Right now, unless you are headed to a government priority department and then a priority area within that department, then the next little while is going to be a bit of a rough ride.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Looks like the new pay and benefits is doing exactly what it was implemented for. You are one of quite a few I know that are looking to remain to get their best 5.

It would be pretty silly to walk away from another years at +13%, +6K a year. That's a good boost on my pension.

Right now, unless you are headed to a government priority department and then a priority area within that department, then the next little while is going to be a bit of a rough ride.

Ya I don't want to be the new man in that org right now.

 

[Remius]

Treasury board just found 500 ways to cut red tape.

Closer to my area of work they discovered they could save quite a bit of money by registering course students as a group to get group rates instead of each sub unit or individuals doing it themselves at the individual rate.

Small amount in the big picture but small amounts add up.

 

[IKnowNothing]

It's happening again. Will be interested in PMMC response to this, because Trudeau eventually caved to public pressure, but Carney is much more entwined in the business community and the business community likes their low wage worker stream.

I'd be very interested in seeing the math on what the "right" level is, and then implementing a path to get to there as a aggressively as possible. I have no doubt that the post covid intake run up has been a big contributor to current youth unemployment levels- but that being true is not the same thing as guaranteeing that we have the youth workforce to replace it in its entirety if we cut off cold turkey.

 

[Quirky]

I hope you're right, but I'd still bet money that when you cut staff, very generally, SOMETHING ends up not getting done,

….and the world doesn’t end. Then you realize that the SOMETHING you did before didn’t end up needing doing in the first place. Pretty much every made-up secondary duty unrelated to your trade.

 

[ArmyRick]

I have no doubt that the post covid intake run up has been a big contributor to current youth unemployment levels-

Seriously? COVID come and gone long ago. Lets really think about what is the root cause here (cough, cough, piss poor Liberal policies on economy, TFW, International mobility program, inflation caused by serious government overspending, etc)

Or you can blame Trump, say its "complicated", its "provincial responsibility" or some other horseshit excuse.

 

[Quirky]

Seriously? COVID come and gone long ago. Lets really think about what is the root cause here

Harper era policies….

….and PP.

 

[ArmyRick]

We have all heard of the TFW program, how many here knew about the international mobility program?

Its very similar to TFW except requires NO local market impact assessment report (The bullshit thing most of the employers claim that they couldn't find a suitable candidate) and sends new workers (temporary as far as I know) to areas outside the largest immigration hubs.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Seriously? COVID come and gone long ago. Lets really think about what is the root cause here (cough, cough, piss poor Liberal policies on economy, TFW, International mobility program, inflation caused by serious government overspending, etc)

Or you can blame Trump, say its "complicated", its "provincial responsibility" or some other horseshit excuse.

As much as I'd like to blame everything on the gubmint, it's a thing:

Canada’s Business Dynamism in a Post-Pandemic Slump​

• Canada’s business dynamism is struggling to get back on its feet post-pandemic. Business dynamism was already on a downward trajectory before COVID-19, and now a slow rate of business entries and a rise in bankruptcies has revealed dynamism remains weak.

• Companies, employing more than 20 and fewer than 500 employees are at the forefront of this downturn. Growth in the number of active firms within these cohorts declined during the pandemic and remained tepid since 2021.
• At the industry level, several sectors are growing at a much slower pace than before the pandemic. While several sectors have emerged stronger. Knowledge-based sectors are expanding, however, growth in housing-related sectors has not resulted in increased competition or productivity.
• Easier financing conditions and a more balanced labour market should support a rebound in business creations. Additional policy measures aimed at reducing regulatory barriers, fostering entrepreneurship, and encouraging innovation may be necessary to help businesses shake-off the lingering effects of the pandemic.

Canada’s Business Dynamism in a Post-Pandemic Slump

Canada’s Business Dynamism in a Post-Pandemic Slump

economics.td.com

 

[daftandbarmy]

A good start...

Treasury Board president says ministers have identified nearly 500 ways to cut red tape​

Shafqat Ali released a follow-up to PM's 60-day review of all government regulations​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/red-tape-progress-reports-federal-government-1.7627428

 

[Halifax Tar]

Harper era policies….

….and PP.

Apparently that's the reason the CAF is a mess...

 

[Remius]

Apparently that's the reason the CAF is a mess...

“a”reason. “not the” reason.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Seriously? COVID come and gone long ago. Lets really think about what is the root cause here (cough, cough, piss poor Liberal policies on economy, TFW, International mobility program, inflation caused by serious government overspending, etc)

My Words- "Post Covid Intake Run up"

In the context of the TFW-
Post COVID = the time since COVID
Intake Run up = program intake numbers ballooning upwards year over year

The initial COVID slump and recovery explosion are well defined inflection points in the overall use of the TFW program- referring to them colloquially shouldn't be a trigger.

Let's really think... about stopping to read words when we want to take part in online conversations.

 

[The Bread Guy]

I would be in cohort of 44%.



I turned down a PS offer yesterday. I don't like what the horizon looks like over there, and with the new pay and bennies it makes more sense to top up my last 5.

In general, I’d recommend a PS career, but these specific times, I’d be leery, too.

And thanks from a grateful taxpayer for keeping some valuable institutional memory within the system a bit longer

 

[Czech_pivo]

Remember when the LPC, under Trudeau, resisted lowering immigration numbers until a critical mass of Canadians were unhappy about the level of immigration coming in, and then they budged?

Nearly half of Canadians support scrapping Temporary Foreign workers program: poll - National | Globalnews.ca

A new poll suggests nearly half of Canadians support the idea of ending the Temporary Foreign Workers program, with the Prairie provinces showing the strongest response.

globalnews.ca

It's happening again. Will be interested in PMMC response to this, because Trudeau eventually caved to public pressure, but Carney is much more entwined in the business community and the business community likes their low wage worker stream.

I 100% expect to see a reduction in the number of TFW's but no shutting down of it.

In addition - I would like to see us adopt something similar to what the US and the EU has in terms of how many hours and what type of work Foreign Uni/Coll students can perform here in Canada. Moving down from 24 to 18-20hrs a week for FT students and for the type of work being ONLY allowed to be on campus or DIRECTLY related to their field of study. Meaning, a chemistry major can't be working at Tim Hortons but can be assisting faculty on campus with various chemistry related research initiatives but NOT at the expense of a CDN citizen or CDN PR chemistry student losing out on that position.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I 100% expect to see a reduction in the number of TFW's but no shutting down of it.

Shut it down completely with exception of agricultural and fishing jobs. I might even except construction jobs, but I need to ponder that one.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Shut it down completely with exception of agricultural and fishing jobs. I might even except construction jobs, but I need to ponder that one.

I concur.

 

[ArmyRick]

I 100% expect to see a reduction in the number of TFW's but no shutting down of it.

Or they shuffle it all under something else like International Mobility program then the LPC will only be half lying about reduction in TFWs

 

[Remius]

Shut it down completely with exception of agricultural and fishing jobs. I might even except construction jobs, but I need to ponder that one.

Also ponder about how our health care system could collapse under that COA.

It needs a revamp, sure, outright cancellation is a good sound bite for the base but the consequences in many non farming industries could be catastrophic.

 

[Quirky]

Shut it down completely with exception of agricultural and fishing jobs. I might even except construction jobs, but I need to ponder that one.

Truck driving?

But then companies would have to pay more to attract Canadians.