Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Halifax Tar]

So no country has ever been patriotic?

Canada is my only concern.

 

[Lumber]

That brings me back to the inch thick.

Don't tell me you're patriotic unless you're willing to put Canada before self. Otherwise its all just words and empty gestures.

Citizens vs civilians!

 

[Altair]

Canada is my only concern.

Even then, seeing as Canada needed conscription in both WW1 and WW2, would you say Canadians between 1914-1918 and 1939-1945 were not patriotic?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Citizens vs civilians!

Not vs, not oppositional. Just different.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Even then, seeing as Canada needed conscription in both WW1 and WW2, would you say Canadians between 1914-1918 and 1939-1945 were not patriotic?

Some Canadians were, some Canadians were patriotic towards the crown, some weren't patriotic at all and tried to avoid their duty. Some just wanted the adventure of going to war, and some wanted to kill.

 

[Altair]

Some Canadians were, some Canadians were patriotic towards the crown, some weren't patriotic at all and tried to avoid their duty. Some just wanted the adventure of going to war, and some wanted to kill.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[Quirky]

Let me preface this by saying I'm never been so proud to be a Canadian.

Ignorance is bliss.

Travel to the USA-Down 34 percent.

Shopping- Sales of Canadian authored book up 25 percent. Sales of American food products down 15-20 percent, some categories down as much as 50 percent.

Culture- CBC reports 34 percent increase on people watching their streaming service and Canadian content. Juno awards viewership surged 400 percent.

Is this patriotism or is it because majority of canadians are broke?

85% of Canadians Now Living Paycheque to Paycheque, Says H&R Block Survey

Rising costs of living put increasing pressure on household finances across Canada A new survey from H&R Block Canada reveals a sobering financial reality for many Canadians: 85% of respondents…

ontariohousingmarket.com

 

[Halifax Tar]

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Precisely. I wouldn't say Canada has ever been a 'overtly patriotic country' so you will have to pardon me as I scoff at the usage of flag and pole sales as a measure of patriotism.

We're generally a quiet, complacent, and superficial people. Expecting us to put something greater than ourselves ahead our own individual wants and needs is probably more than most Canadians are willing to give.

I will be impressed when Canadians understand and embrace the words of JFK:

"ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country"

 

[Jarnhamar]

I don't.

I know you don't. I created a strawman.
The same kind of strawman you were building in your response to me in post #2,878. I was pointing out protestors were contributing to an increase in flags, suggesting I meant all increases to the number of Canadians flags being sold were due to a handful of protests just silly of you.

The protestors burning these big beautiful Canadian flags probably aren't buying expensive made-in-Canada flags. They're probably buying Amazon flags made by children in sweat shops, though I suspect a number of flags our new found patriotic neighbors in Canada are likewise from sweatshops.

I simply think that my neighbours, who have put Canadian flags in their windows, and backyard, in the past few months are not burning them.

Not burning flags in your window and back yard is just good fire-safety practices. No one outranks general safety.

I happen to think that they, and most of the 75 percent surge in sales, are not Palestinian supporters, but Canadians showing their patriotism.

That's fair.
Canadian flags everywhere are a beautiful sight (minus the ones on fire).

The rush to be seen as patriotic all of a sudden reminds me of influencers seeing a new soundbite on social media and rushing to be a part of the trend.

 

[Altair]

Ignorance is bliss.

I do appreciate self reflection. Bravo.

Is this patriotism or is it because majority of canadians are broke?

85% of Canadians Now Living Paycheque to Paycheque, Says H&R Block Survey

Rising costs of living put increasing pressure on household finances across Canada A new survey from H&R Block Canada reveals a sobering financial reality for many Canadians: 85% of respondents…

ontariohousingmarket.com

Considering that travel to other countries is up, no.

 

[Altair]

Precisely. I wouldn't say Canada has ever been a 'overtly patriotic country' so you will have to pardon me as I scoff at the usage of flag and pole sales as a measure of patriotism.

We're generally a quiet, complacent, and superficial people. Expecting us to put something greater than ourselves ahead our own individual wants and needs is probably more than most Canadians are willing to give.

I will be impressed when Canadians understand and embrace the words of JFK:

"ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country"

You know what?

I agree.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Some Canadians were, some Canadians were patriotic towards the crown, some weren't patriotic at all and tried to avoid their duty. Some just wanted the adventure of going to war, and some wanted to kill.

And in 1939 some wanted 3 square meals and some money in their pocket.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Ignorance is bliss.





Is this patriotism or is it because majority of canadians are broke?

85% of Canadians Now Living Paycheque to Paycheque, Says H&R Block Survey

Rising costs of living put increasing pressure on household finances across Canada A new survey from H&R Block Canada reveals a sobering financial reality for many Canadians: 85% of respondents…

ontariohousingmarket.com

No, its not that they are broke.

For my family/friends back in Windsor, crossing the 'border' is like crossing the street, meaning its a normal, everyday occurrence. For the majority of them, they are no longer going over for gas and groceries or to watch the Tigers play or for dinner, whatever. They are actively choosing not to go over and spend their money in metro Detroit. It has nothing to do with 'being broke', in fact its costing them more by not doing so.

 

[Quirky]

The rush to be seen as patriotic all of a sudden reminds me of influencers seeing a new soundbite on social media and rushing to be a part of the trend.

Never let a crisis go to waste.

No, its not that they are broke.

You may deny it, but the facts are the facts. Canadians have no money and the economy is crashing.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Never let a crisis go to waste.



You may deny it, but the facts are the facts. Canadians have no money and the economy is crashing.

False -

100% false in saying that 'the economy is crashing'.

Please stop saying that the sky is falling. Its not, its simply not.

If you're going to be peddling this nonsense you'd be better off joining a pro-MAGA thread and discuss this thread of discussion there.

I agree with the facts that a much larger number of Canadians are facing more difficult, challenging times - 100% agree with that and agree 100% that this needs to be addressed - but I do not agree with the inflammatory statement that 'the economy is crashing' as it is categorically wrong.

 

[Altair]

You may deny it, but the facts are the facts. Canadians have no money and the economy is crashing.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/where-canadians-are-travelling-instead-of-united-states-1.7602862

Data provided by Flight Centre Canada to CBC News shows that travel spending for many countries booked between May 1 to July 30 is up compared to last year.
Travel spending jumped 148 per cent in Buenos Aires, Argentina, 137 per cent in Osaka, Japan, 112 per cent in Copenhagen, Denmark and 101 per cent in Curaçao in the Caribbean, according to Flight Centre Canada data.

Aruba, also in the Caribbean, also saw a 71 per cent jump in travel spending, along with Lisbon, Portugal at 61 per cent.

Meanwhile, Prague, Czech Republic saw an increase of 38 per cent, Barcelona, Spain saw 35 per cent, Dublin, Ireland jumped 29 per cent and spending in Cape Town, South Africa went up 27 per cent.

No.

 

[IKnowNothing]

You may deny it, but the facts are the facts. Canadians have no money and the economy is crashing.

Ah yes, the facts. As represented: "85% of Canadian are living pay cheque to pay cheque! Country is broken!"

From the source (Are Emaciated Canadian Piggybanks Today's Reality?)

• Average respondent is putting 7% into savings
• 74% or respondents worry that they're not saving enough
• Cumulative 64% report putting 5% or more

Where the 85% number comes in is that 85% feel that living paycheque to paycheque is the norm.

While that sentiment is important to note (as with other negatives revealed in the survey), the facts show that it is wrong.

Some people are hurting. Some people having to tighten financial belts to a degree they're not comfortable with. Some people are having to make QoL sacrifices they're not fans of. But majority (including a lot of those "Somes") are still saving. They are not broke. Non US travel is up. New car sales are up. Beef prices are at an all time high with strong demand.

 

[YZT580]

I am of the opinion that we draft everyone over 40 right to death next time around. I think we have fucked over the youth enough, its time for the older generations to pay their dues.

sounds great, free geritol for life and batteries for my scooter as well. Is there room in a tank for me to store my cane? Sarcasm aside, war is a young person's game, us old folks just can't duck in time or move fast enough to get out of the way. But I understand where you are coming from. Is there some way to prohibit old people from advocating for war in the first place? They are the group that seems to start it all.

 

[Jarnhamar]

If you're going to be peddling this nonsense you'd be better off joining a pro-MAGA thread and discuss this thread of discussion there.

 

[YZT580]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/where-canadians-are-travelling-instead-of-united-states-1.7602862

No.

An observation: air lines in Canada have a preponderance of short haul aircraft. Should this change in destinations persist it could totally screw up their fleet management plans. A320s and B737 aren't the aircraft of choice for long haul and their interior configurations are definitely not set up for distance travel