Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Remius]

More probably would consider benefits if we marketed right, having a pension at 25 years sounds really good when living pay to pay without being able to save for retirement

Thing is, they do see those things as valuable and expect fair compensation. It’s a plus. But the main drivers are more self centred (I don’t mean that negatively) but they want to know what it is they are doing that contributes to the larger picture and if it is worth their time, what they get from it (from a self actualised and individual learning perspective) and work life balance. Those types of things tend to get prioritized over pay and pension.

 

[MilEME09]

Thing is, they do see those things as valuable and expect fair compensation. It’s a plus. But the main drivers are more self centred (I don’t mean that negatively) but they want to know what it is they are doing that contributes to the larger picture and if it is worth their time, what they get from it (from a self actualised and individual learning perspective) and work life balance. Those types of things tend to get prioritized over pay and pension.

Work life balance is very difficult in the military but its something we can work to improve for sure.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Thing is, they do see those things as valuable and expect fair compensation. It’s a plus. But the main drivers are more self centred (I don’t mean that negatively) but they want to know what it is they are doing that contributes to the larger picture and if it is worth their time, what they get from it (from a self actualised and individual learning perspective) and work life balance. Those types of things tend to get prioritized over pay and pension.

I’ve had to deal with a ton of 25yr olds with an MBA and 1-2yrs of ‘work’ experience who expect to be earning 100K plus a 15-20% bonus and leading a team of 6-8 people.
MBA’s used to be for adults with 8-10yrs progressive work experience and there were about 60% less schools offering an MBA program and it was substantially harder to get into one.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Does no one want to work in this country anymore?

Not if their needs are being met with gifts.

 

[Remius]

I’ve had to deal with a ton of 25yr olds with an MBA and 1-2yrs of ‘work’ experience who expect to be earning 100K plus a 15-20% bonus and leading a team of 6-8 people.
MBA’s used to be for adults with 8-10yrs progressive work experience and there were about 60% less schools offering an MBA program and it was substantially harder to get into one.

Oh I’ve seen a similar trend. But it’s because they see that work as more important and worth “their” time. There is also a sense of worth that is inflated. It leads to bad results long term.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Not enough people know what life was like for most of the history of humanity. It's easy to focus on QoL when basic needs are easily come by.

 

[Altair]

Read the news.

It’s damage control. And a bad one as well.

He’s getting it Even from his own side.

I agree with Armyrick.

This is a big ole nothing burger.

The time to take out the knives for PP was after the election when he was without a seat. Now it's firmly PP's party.

 

[Remius]

I agree with Armyrick.

This is a big ole nothing burger.

The time to take out the knives for PP was after the election when he was without a seat. Now it's firmly PP's party.

It’s still damage control. Nothing burger or not.

It is PPs party. No knives are out. His base is pleased and secure.

But he’s making the same mistakes that cost him the election and appears to have learned nothing.

 

[Quirky]

But he’s making the same mistakes that cost him the election and appears to have learned nothing.

We’ve learned over the past 10 years that Canadians deserved JT and now, MC.

 

[Jarnhamar]

We’ve learned over the past 10 years that Canadians deserved JT and now, MC.

Canadians went goo goo gaga for Trudeau and stuck by his side for 10 years, making excuse after excuse for his scandals. Poilievre was never going to win the minute another pseudo celebrity entered the race.

 

[Remius]

We’ve learned over the past 10 years that Canadians deserved JT and now, MC.

Canadians get what’s on offer. The conservatives haven’t figured that part out and have decided to serve up less than the others.

 

[Remius]

Canadians went goo goo gaga for Trudeau and stuck by his side for 10 years, making excuse after excuse for his scandals. Poilievre was never going to win the minute another pseudo celebrity entered the race.

Canadians didn’t make those excuses. Most of them voted against him every election. Stop blaming the electorate for piss poor performance. It will only lead to more loss and more blaming everyone but themselves.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Canadians get what’s on offer. The conservatives haven’t figured that part out and have decided to serve up less than the others.

I suspect we'll see some insane gymnastics in a couple weeks to explain why a $100B deficit is actually a good thing.

 

[Remius]

I suspect we'll see some insane gymnastics in a couple weeks to explain why a $100B deficit is actually a good thing.

Oh I am sure it will happen. Not sure if it will be sold as a good thing but I expect them to sell it as a necessary thing.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Canadians didn’t make those excuses.

They totally did. Every time an embarrassing scandal popped up Liberal supporters looked at their feet and then quickly became side tracked by another topic. Trudeau could (and did) get away with anything because his supporters convinced themselves "the other guy would be worse". Can't compete with that brand loyalty.

We'll see the same loyalty to MC.

 

[Jarnhamar]

but I expect them to sell it as a necessary thing.

Good points, I agree 100%.
Like I said above, because the other guy would be worse.

 

[Remius]

They totally did. Every time an embarrassing scandal popped up Liberal supporters looked at their feet and then quickly became side tracked by another topic. Trudeau could (and did) get away with anything because his supporters convinced themselves "the other guy would be worse". Can't compete with that brand loyalty.

Not caring about an issue is not the same as making excuses for it. You said Canadians, not liberal supporters.

We'll see the same loyalty to MC.

Time will tell. It depends what sort of issue his detractors think is huge and if his supporters buy it or not. Regular Canadians will carry on caring about the things that really matter to them.

 

[Jarnhamar]

You said Canadians, not liberal supporters.

Good catch, my mistake thank you.

 

[YZT580]

Who from his side? Dimitri been a Liberal for ten years now. Its your perspective, and I think (like you you only have an opinion here) your looking or hoping for something to happen. It won't.

-I seem to remember people vehemently defending Trudeau and look how that turned out.
-It seems the same people defended Jagmeet as "king maker" and now the NDP is hoping to revive itself (and Jagmeet can't go anywhere near the party without being lynched)
-I remember the same people defending the carbon"pricing" (tax) as a good thing, and the first thing Carney does is zero it out (not a bad thing but kind of hypocritical)
-I remember the same people insisting Poilievre would lose his seat and well, F me, they were right on that one.
-Then came the Poilievre has to win a by election, and booom, he did.

Lets wait and see how the leadership review goes (I suspect he will skate through)

On previous issues. SNC-Lavalin was still being investigated in parliamentary committee only 2 years ago and former crown attorney, now CPC MP Larry Brock had some scathing words back then for acting commissioner (now commissioner) of the RCMP, said ight to his face.

We still have 2 more issues that are "not forgotten" by any means, the arrive scam (which parliament voted on getting the money back, lets see if there is follow through) and the Green slush fund (where did the $400 million go?).

In the EXACT words of Pierre Poilievre, where was he wrong (assuming you actually watched the podcast, which I can safely bet you didn't).

you have a good memory. A trip down memory lane can be a very humbling experience

 

[YZT580]

Canadians get what’s on offer. The conservatives haven’t figured that part out and have decided to serve up less than the others.

too true. they keep making the same mistake: trying to find a real leader instead of a clothes horse