Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Quirky]

Mennonite community

Perhaps a cull is in order? Except bullets we use needles.

 

[HavokFour]

Perhaps a cull is in order? Except bullets we use needles.

You should probably elaborate.

 

[PuckChaser]

You should probably elaborate.

Its a reference to the BC ostrich culling pretty sure.

 

[RangerRay]

I like the direction, but it’s pretty timid for the situation we’re in.

IIRC, the first Chretien budget was milquetoast. The second was th

 

[Czech_pivo]

Direct outcome from playing loose with facts during COVID. Trust has been broken and I'm not sure how that can be fixed quickly, but labels of anti-vax and conspiracy theories isn't it.

Please.
The downfall started well before Covid - Jenny McCarthy and her soapbox rants got into the ear of many a early-mid 30 something Ameri-Canadian woman.

Jenny McCarthy: "We're Not An Anti-Vaccine Movement ... We're Pro-Safe Vaccine" | FRONTLINE | PBS | Official Site | Documentary Series

"Ask 99.9 percent of parents who have children with autism if we’d rather have the measles versus autism, we’d sign up for the measles," says the celebrity, author and activist.

www.pbs.org

"Looking at milestones, he hit pretty much every milestone. It wasn’t until after the MMR [measles, mumps and rubella vaccine] he started showing some regression"

 

[MilEME09]

Please.
The downfall started well before Covid - Jenny McCarthy and her soapbox rants got into the ear of many a early-mid 30 something Ameri-Canadian woman.

Jenny McCarthy: "We're Not An Anti-Vaccine Movement ... We're Pro-Safe Vaccine" | FRONTLINE | PBS | Official Site | Documentary Series

"Ask 99.9 percent of parents who have children with autism if we’d rather have the measles versus autism, we’d sign up for the measles," says the celebrity, author and activist.

www.pbs.org

"Looking at milestones, he hit pretty much every milestone. It wasn’t until after the MMR [measles, mumps and rubella vaccine] he started showing some regression"

Not to mention the debunked vaccines cause autism report, that even after being debunked kept going. I am honestly convinced the anti vax movement is partially amplified by China and Russia to destabilize the west. it's interesting to compare the two.

Feature	West	Russia/China
Nature of anti-vax movement	Primarily grassroots, ideological, individual choice; mixed motives (safety concerns, liberty, ideology)	In addition to domestic hesitancy, strong state / geopolitical dimension: vaccine diplomacy, disinformation campaigns targeting other countries and Western vaccines
State role	Governments often push vaccination campaigns, sometimes with mandates; anti-vax groups oppose government/elite	Governments in Russia/China are actively promoting their vaccines; also using information operations to discredit Western vaccines
Disinformation / external targeting	Disinformation largely domestic (though foreign actors may assist)	Russia/China have targeted foreign audiences with anti-vaccination narratives for strategic influence. Example: Russian sources spreading anti-vax narratives mostly in foreign languages. (PMC)
Trust & uptake dynamics	Hesitancy exists but mixed; higher overall vaccination uptake in many Western countries	Russia shows lower uptake despite availability; China shows strong domestic uptake of its own vaccines but distrust of Western ones
Narrative framing	Focus on individual freedom, government mistrust, pharma mistrust, safety concerns	In Russia/China: framing often includes West vs East, superiority of domestic vaccines, skepticism toward Western regulatory agencies, geopolitics of vaccine supply
Information environment	Relatively open media & debate; anti-vax voices more visible and contested	More controlled information environment (especially China), state media influence high; disinformation often cross-border

 

[Halifax Tar]

Interesting data

Canadians React to Budget 2025: Split Views, Muddled Message, and a Test of Trust in Carney’s Leadership - Abacus Data

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abacusdata.ca

some post budget polling starting to come out, looks like the liberals are winning the information war about the budget for now

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I guess it depends on what poll you ask... Seems to be very mixed to me.

 

[YZT580]

Saying we were loose with facts shows exactly what I mean the we lost the information war. People interviewed in the Mennonite community here calling the measles just a flu, also shows how we lost the message, you can also reference the all things Covid 19 thread for more proof of such. This requires an aggressive facts based public education campaign to deliberate debunk all false messaging

are you going to start with all the lies they told re: covid? People just don't believe anymore simply because they have lots of examples to show exactly why they shouldn't.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Hey all,.......this thread is not about covid/etc.
Thanks,
Bruce

 

[lenaitch]

Saying we were loose with facts shows exactly what I mean the we lost the information war. People interviewed in the Mennonite community here calling the measles just a flu, also shows how we lost the message, you can also reference the all things Covid 19 thread for more proof of such. This requires an aggressive facts based public education campaign to deliberate debunk all false messaging

We've always had insular Mennonite communities, yet still we managed to extirpate infectious diseases. I'm not so sure Covid started it but it didn't help. Social media has been pushing out all sorts of medical garbage; now aided by the US Administration. The latest is parents refusing Vitamin K injections for newborns to prevent spontaneous hemorrhaging, citing all sorts of side effects. It's a vitamin.

 

[Remius]

are you going to start with all the lies they told re: covid? People just don't believe anymore simply because they have lots of examples to show exactly why they shouldn't.

Or the lies about vaccines in the first place.

This is on anti vaxxers and the disinformation machine they created.

Decades of progress torn apart by ignorance and stupidity.

 

[YZT580]

Or the lies about vaccines in the first place.

This is on anti vaxxers and the disinformation machine they created.

Decades of progress torn apart by ignorance and stupidity.

so do you believe the anti-vaxers and their lies or the government with theirs? They are both liars and neither has our best interests at heart.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

No one listening?? There's a covid thread on the forum...

 

[Remius]

so do you believe the anti-vaxers and their lies or the government with theirs? They are both liars and neither has our best interests at heart.

My post was very clear. We’ve been asked not to derail, this any further. Feel free to PM me all you want if you want to take it there.

 

[Maxman1]

No one listening?? There's a covid thread on the forum...

 

[Halifax Tar]

Lol did you make that ?

 

[Remius]

I guess it depends on what poll you ask... Seems to be very mixed to me.

Agreed. And maybe that is a good sign.

 

[Maxman1]

Lol did you make that ?

A few days ago. I posted it earlier in the funny pictures thread.

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Stealing the crap out of this.....

 

[MilEME09]

Stealing the crap out of this.....

Change the big guy to uniforms or reserve restricting and its the same meme lol