Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[MilEME09]

LOL. Yes posted above.

The spinning that must be happening right now in the CPC. One away from a majority.

Weird I didnt see it when I posted, page must of been old and not refreshed, well Elizabeth May holds power now, ish

 

[Remius]

Weird I didnt see it when I posted, page must of been old and not refreshed, well Elizabeth May holds power now, ish

Assuming someone else over the holidays doesn’t decides to make a move.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I was told this wasn't happening.

Who told you Michael Ma wasn't crossing the floor?

 

[Altair]

Who told you Michael Ma wasn't crossing the floor?

I was told that no more CPC members of Parliament would be crossing over and that d'entremont was salty.

Nobody said specifically Ma wasn't crossing over, just a blanket no MPs would be crossing over.

 

[Remius]

Thing is, is that Ma wasn’t on anyone’s radar for floor crossing.

Speculation about more coming but we’ll see.

 

[MilEME09]

Assuming someone else over the holidays doesn’t decides to make a move.

Well Aaron Gunn is mulling BC conservative leadership run, and cant recall his name but the one CPC MP who is resigning is only staying till summer. Carney could have a majority by the end of summer next year

 

[Navy_Pete]

Not sure who any of the dippers are, but if any of them are common sense unionist types they might be able to actually get some things done if they jump ship, so might not just be CPC.

On the flip side you might get salty Gildebrault go independent or join the Greens so could be a wild ride.

I just wish the CPC would stop acting like idiot children and use the minority to try and influence actual legislation; NDP got more done with barely being a party that way, but can't see PP making that pivot as he's entrenched himself in the 'Own the Libs' camp and wouldn't vote for something they proposed even if it was right from their campaign (but would complain about them stealing their ideas that he won't support getting put into action). They are now the ones leaning into identiy politics, with their identity being 'not the Libs' and can't get anything actually accomplished.

Can't imagine behaving that way at work; you'd be ARd and out on your ass, or posted somewhere like the ATI section, or the acronym dictionary OPI.

 

[brihard]

Be interesting to see if anyone decides to hop over. Someone sufficiently policy and accomplishment minded may be willing to.

Matt Jeneroux now has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Hard man to track down online but what I'm seeing is a former CTO/CIO, VP at RBC, VP at AIA. An executive used to operating at a high level, with national and maybe even international credibility in that life.

Not hard to see how someone with that backround would respond well to Carney / tire of being a voiceless back bencher in PP's theatre club.

Another interesting point- yall may recognize the riding as being formerly represented by Paul Chiang

 

[Jarnhamar]

I was told that no more CPC members of Parliament would be crossing over and that d'entremont was salty.

Nobody said specifically Ma wasn't crossing over, just a blanket no MPs would be crossing over.

Ahhh.

Who said that though?

Thing is, is that Ma wasn’t on anyone’s radar for floor crossing.

Speculation about more coming but we’ll see.

I can see why he wouldn't be on anyone's radar after statements like this a week ago.

“The Liberals do not represent team Canada. They do not represent the average hard-working Canadian. They represent the most ancient of feudalisms with a fake paper economy bolstered by something that very nearly approximates a slave system.

While over two million Canadians visit food banks each month and 700,000 of those are kids, the Liberals work every day to inflate asset prices”

He sure pulled a 180.

 

[IKnowNothing]

He sure pulled a 180.

Maybe the phrase "party line" has nothing to do with the punch bowl

 

[HavokFour]

Thing is, is that Ma wasn’t on anyone’s radar for floor crossing.

Speculation about more coming but we’ll see.

I am wondering if the recent failed motion has anything to do with it.

 

[Remius]

I am wondering if the recent failed motion has anything to do with it.

From what I’ve seen reported, there has been a lot of procedural games being played at committee as well. Blocking a bunch of stuff like removing the carbon tax FFS. And blocking things that benefit some CPC ridings.

I wouldn’t be shocked if some PC members of the CPC decided that the environment of unserious games might be a good time to make their move.

But we’ll see as this develops.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Maybe the phrase "party line" has nothing to do with the punch bowl

Wat?

 

[brihard]

From what I’ve seen reported, there has been a lot of procedural games being played at committee as well. Blocking a bunch of stuff like removing the carbon tax FFS. And blocking things that benefit some CPC ridings.

I wouldn’t be shocked if some PC members of the CPC decided that the environment of unserious games might be a good time to make their move.

But we’ll see as this develops.

Indeed. Anyone hopping over now has a solid chance at three or more years of a majority under a dude who’s distinctly different from recent predecessors. There will be a lot of riding level math to do on whether a crossing is politically survivable, but I’d say the situation right now is not the norm we’re used to.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Wat?

Only a naif would try to hold up a newly elected back bench MP following the party line in token public communication as proof of their actual personal convictions.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Indeed. Anyone hopping over now has a solid chance at three or more years of a majority under a dude who’s distinctly different from recent predecessors. There will be a lot of riding level math to do on whether a crossing is politically survivable, but I’d say the situation right now is not the norm we’re used to.

Can’t help but wonder if any of the few remaining old guard PC MP’s are wondering if a jump might be worth it.

 

[RangerRay]

Thing is, is that Ma wasn’t on anyone’s radar for floor crossing.

Speculation about more coming but we’ll see.

I don’t think he was on anyone’s radar for anything.

 

[HavokFour]

Wasting little time.

PM Carney introduces new Liberal MP Michael Ma at holiday party

 

[Czech_pivo]

Wasting little time.

PM Carney introduces new Liberal MP Michael Ma at holiday party

Guess we now know which party has the jumbo shrimp with cocktail sauce at their Christmas event.