Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Lumber]

It's called hard work, choices and sacrifice. The trick is to sacrifice yourself early and resist materialism and expenses at an early age.

I left home at 18 years old and joined the Armed Forces. I took the fairly typical path until I turned 27: spent more than I made, pissed my $$$ away on useless shit, racked up credit card debt, etc.

Then, something clicked in my brain, and I made a conscientious decision to change my ways.

My wife and I moved in to the smallest and crappiest apartments we could find, I paid off all debt and started accumulating cash. I then started investing....first you build a portfolio to $10k, that took a while... then you get to $100k. At $100k things become much easier and your money starts to work more efficiently.

You need to be constantly resisting the urge to splurge on useless crap: car loans, credit card debt, etc.

Once you have enough $$$, you can start buying stuff with straight up cash. I haven't financed anything other than a mortgage in about a decade. I actually have three separate credit cards but I pay them off every month and collect points and cash back with them. Cashback cards are the best. My cash back card pays me $1500 a year. I I use it for all my bill payments and then pay it off immediately, so it's a credit card that is literally making me $$$.

At certain point as well, your salary/income from work starts to become less important to your actual wealth. This is crucial because income earned from labour is super tax inefficient. The Govt takes a big piece of your pie so you need to create other wealth generating assets that allow you to keep as much for yourself as possible.


There are a tonne of opportunities out there. I left the CAF with 17 years of service and took a transfer value. I invested every single $ in accounts I manage myself because I figured I could do it better than the nanny state and I was absolutely right.

A very simple rule in investing is the Rule of 72:

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The S&P 500 long-term average is 10-12% annually. 72/10= 7.2 years to double in value.

I also found a career that nobody else is really doing that happens to pay incredibly well. It's a tough environment and is not for the soft but the cheques never bounce and I'm making fantastic money.

That brings me to my next point:

If everyone else is trying to do it, it's probably not a good idea and not going to lead to long-term success. I went to a few SCAN seminars and joined a few Veteran groups and I generally discarded most of what I was told. Things like "Coding for Vets", etc, isn't what's going to help you get ahead in this Country.

I treat money like a game now. I always loved strategy games and $$$ works exactly the same and the same concepts can be applied to dealing with $$$.

This is how you get rich in this Country.

Step 1: Convince your shopaholic and investing illiterate spouse to be frugal and save money.
Step 2: Find a new spouse.

 

[mariomike]

Step 1: Convince your shopaholic and investing illiterate spouse to be frugal and save money.
Step 2: Find a new spouse.

Step 3: Mary the boss's daughter.

I left home at 18 years old and joined the Armed Forces.

I joined the Department of Emergency Services when I was 18. I was already in the PRes. So, I stayed home.

Just like I never left high school.

Do your work. Live your life. GTFO the day you max-out your pension.

Times have changed. For example, there is no longer a maximum at OMERS. You can stay, and increase it, till you drop dead. If you want.

Another "new thing" is if Cumulative Mental Stress has worn you down, not a problem. They permanently place you into a new "suitable " Job Classification. Your pay, benefits, seniority etc. continue same as if you never changed your old classification.

There are a lot of smaller improvements in the Collective Agreement that we never dreamed of.

As for the Cost of Housing in this town, you can live where home prices are more affordable.

With our schedule, you only had to spend seven nights in town every three weeks. You could use your Sick Bank, vacation, Lieu-time, FSH days etc to cut that down .

Some guys would rent a room and "hot bunk" , sharing it with other shifts. Others would stay with relatives or friends.

TFD, now with their 24-hour tours, and dormitories, go on regular days off after shift. So, they can easily reside in a more affordable community.

I was using leger, which says it may have been a wash.

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No doubt political strategists.and students of Political Science will find that of interest.

 

[Quirky]

Decade of darkness, thanks to the liberals, has shown little prospect for younger people and they're starting to feel it too.

How did Canada’s young people become its unhappiest generation?

From families to finances, benchmarks are happening later for Canada’s young — and their happiness levels have been plummeting.

www.ctvnews.ca

The 2024 edition of the decades-long study of global happiness, published by the Wellbeing Research Centre at the University of Oxford, asked participants to picture their life as a ladder, with the best possible life at 10 and the worst at zero.

While many countries among the 134 covered by the research have also seen happiness levels fall among those under 30 since 2006, the slide of young Canadians down the ladder is exceptional.

Only four countries have seen a worse decline — Jordan, Venezuela, Lebanon and Afghanistan.

 

[Altair]

Federal minister says he’s getting ‘lots of inquiries’ about MPs crossing the floor

A federal minister dropped hints about more floor crossings Monday following the defection of Ontario MP Michael Ma to the Liberals last week.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

A federal minister dropped hints about more floor crossings Monday following the defection of Ontario MP Michael Ma to the Liberals last week.

When asked whether more opposition MPs are getting ready to cross the floor to join the government, Energy Minister Tim Hodgson said people have reached out.

“Let’s say I’m getting lots of inquiries,” Hodgson told a Toronto press conference.

If/when this happens, do we rename this thread or close it and make a new one?

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Decade of darkness, thanks to the liberals, has shown little prospect for younger people and they're starting to feel it too.

How did Canada’s young people become its unhappiest generation?

From families to finances, benchmarks are happening later for Canada’s young — and their happiness levels have been plummeting.

www.ctvnews.ca

How does this differ from every other Western country? Are you sure it is about a political party in Canada, and not about socioeconomic changes that affect every Western Liberal (and Illiberal) Nation?

#causationandcorrelation

 

[The Bread Guy]

How does this differ from every other Western country? Are you sure it is about a political party in Canada, and not about socioeconomic changes that affect every Western Liberal (and Illiberal) Nation?

#causationandcorrelation

There you go, getting all fact-ish & nuance-y again, ruining the narrative ....

 

[Jarnhamar]

Federal minister says he’s getting ‘lots of inquiries’ about MPs crossing the floor

A federal minister dropped hints about more floor crossings Monday following the defection of Ontario MP Michael Ma to the Liberals last week.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

If/when this happens, do we rename this thread or close it and make a new one?

All things considered it should renamed to the Conservative Official Opposition Party 2025 - ???

 

[Czech_pivo]

All things considered it should renamed to the Conservative Official Opposition Party 2025 - ???

This could easily be disinformation coming from this Minister in order to sow confusion and doubt in the CPC.

 

[Remius]

This could easily be disinformation coming from this Minister in order to sow confusion and doubt in the CPC.

I thought that as well lol

 

[YZT580]

How does this differ from every other Western country? Are you sure it is about a political party in Canada, and not about socioeconomic changes that affect every Western Liberal (and Illiberal) Nation?

#causationandcorrelation

Said it before. Kids are giving up. Reverse discrimination, jobs going to letter groups, older people telling them it is useless to try, social media putdowns, school awards given to the same alphabet groups, school placements going offshore. There are lots of little reasons that all add up to a feeling of hopelessness. I'm not saying they are right; in fact I believe that there are lots of opportunities but it is enough that they believe that it is hopeless.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Now this is interesting.....

Poilievre says Carney’s Liberals are ‘counterfeit’ Conservatives​

Poilievre says Carney’s Liberals are ‘counterfeit’ Conservatives

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre says Prime Minister Mark Carney’s government is practising “counterfeit Conservatism.”

www.ctvnews.ca

Poilievre says while Carney likes to copy his ideas — ending the consumer carbon price, for example — his government won’t do what it says it will.

Carney is widely seen to be moving the Liberals to the political centre after years of more centre-left policies under former prime minister Justin Trudeau.

Steven Guilbeault, who was Trudeau’s environment minister, recently quit Carney’s cabinet over what he calls the dismantling of climate policies he helped introduce.

In a year-end interview with The Canadian Press, Poilievre says the challenge for his party is to show the Liberals aren’t actually following through on what they promise.

 

[IKnowNothing]

In a year-end interview with The Canadian Press, Poilievre says the challenge for his party is to show the Liberals aren’t actually following through on what they promise.

Now if that isn't just telling on yourself PP


Given the premise of the LPC being counterfeit conservatives saying they're going to do conservative things:

A leader would say that the challenge for his party is make sure that the Liberals do actually follow through, and make sure they don't water things down.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Now if that isn't just telling on yourself PP


Given the premise of the LPC being counterfeit conservatives saying they're going to do conservative things:

A leader would say that the challenge for his party is make sure that the Liberals do actually follow through, and make sure they don't water things down.

Well 3 things that I can name off the top of my feeble head that he said he would do and did are.

1) Cut taxes through altering the income tax thresholds

- positive as it benefits everyone​

2) Cut the carbon tax on gasoline

- positive as it benefits all who own a non-EV vehicle​

3) Has a workable framework/agreement with Alberta on the terms to get a new oil pipeline to the coast

- unknown as its still a work in process​

 

[Quirky]

How does this differ from every other Western country? Are you sure it is about a political party in Canada, and not about socioeconomic changes that affect every Western Liberal (and Illiberal) Nation?

#causationandcorrelation

The state of Canada is entirely on the Liberals through their policies and decisions.

#everywesternnationsuckssoitsokayifcanadasuckstoo

 

[HavokFour]

Federal minister says he’s getting ‘lots of inquiries’ about MPs crossing the floor

A federal minister dropped hints about more floor crossings Monday following the defection of Ontario MP Michael Ma to the Liberals last week.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

If/when this happens, do we rename this thread or close it and make a new one?

Yep, the one that gives the Liberals a majority will get a very nice deal. If the moderates that are still there weren't lining up to cross they certainly will be now. Any still waiting to pull the trigger should there be another 2-3 crossings after that point will probably not get anywhere near as good because there would already be a healthy safety barrier.

 

[Lumber]

Said it before. Kids are giving up. Reverse discrimination, jobs going to letter groups, older people telling them it is useless to try, social media putdowns, school awards given to the same alphabet groups, school placements going offshore. There are lots of little reasons that all add up to a feeling of hopelessness. I'm not saying they are right; in fact I believe that there are lots of opportunities but it is enough that they believe that it is hopeless.

What the heck are alphabet and letter groups?

 

[YZT580]

What the heck are alphabet and letter groups?

LGBTQ is the alphabet bunch and the letter groups are any group that if mentioned results in accusations of discrimination, bigotry etc. Their the groups that get you blackballed in the letters to the editor.

 

[Altair]

LGBTQ is the alphabet bunch and the letter groups are any group that if mentioned results in accusations of discrimination, bigotry etc. Their the groups that get you blackballed in the letters to the editor.

Yet young people worldwide are largely unhappy, regardless of what political party is in power

It's almost like an entire generation screwed over the following generations regardless of party affiliation.

Nah, that's silly. The LPC is responsible for young people all over the world being unhappy. That makes more sense.

 

[lenaitch]

There are a tonne of opportunities out there, case in point:

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The yellow circles are all the current active gold mines in the area. I took a transfer with my current employer to one of those areas knowing there was an active gold mine in development. It has been offered to others but they all snubbed their noses at it because of the location. My wife hated the place and the idea but sucked it up for two years because I convinced her of the potential windfall we could have fall in to our lap.

Housing and services in general are scarce so we bought a property knowing that we would plan to offload it and make a bunch of $$$. Worst case scenario, my employer would buy it when they transferred me again. We just sold it for a 30% return in two years. She felt an immense sense of vindication when the cheque hit our bank account.

Unless it's a one-off, that type of employment in that type of industry generally means moving a lot. One of our former neighbours was the daughter of a mining engineer and grew up for a few years each in place from coast-to-coast.

Depending on the job, the trick is to get out before the mine's shut-down strikes midnight - and they all do.

The spousal angle is real; similar, it seems, to many military postings.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Well 3 things that I can name off the top of my feeble head that he said he would do and did are.

1) Cut taxes through altering the income tax thresholds

- positive as it benefits everyone​

2) Cut the carbon tax on gasoline

- positive as it benefits all who own a non-EV vehicle​

3) Has a workable framework/agreement with Alberta on the terms to get a new oil pipeline to the coast

- unknown as its still a work in process​

I think you misunderstood my post.

By acknowledging that the LPC is saying that they are/ are going to do the correct/right/conservative things, then characterizing his mission as showing that they're not doing them (rather than making sure they do) PP betrays the fact that doesn't actually want the LPC to enact the good policies, and he'll do his damnedest to prevent it from happening (then try to convince people it didn't if he fails)