Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[brihard]

In fact the PM has specifically stated that there is no intention of seeking a free trade deal with China

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-canada-trump-tariff-threat-china-trade-9.7060150

 

[PPCLI Guy]

That’s nice, but America’s utterly shameless hypocrisy regarding trade relationships with China makes it hard for me to care what they’re whining about. We absolutely must exercise significant caution in our trade with China, for our own purposes, however the U.S. has no leg to stand on criticizing our sovereign trade relationships there.

Exactly. Ferchrissakes this "treasonous deal" merely restores tariffs to what they were before we acceded to the US ask to tariff China...

 

[quadrapiper]

Exactly. Ferchrissakes this "treasonous deal" merely restores tariffs to what they were before we acceded to the US ask to tariff China...

Wonder how much of the freaking out is Musk worried that BYD et al will beat out Tesla.

 

[Haggis]

Wonder how much of the freaking out is Musk worried that BYD et al will beat out Tesla.

Has Transport Canada or the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved any Chinese EVs yet?

 

[RangerRay]

Wonder how much of the freaking out is Musk worried that BYD et al will beat out Tesla.

I don’t mind that part. I would love to see that wipe his smug grin off his face and make him destitute.

My worry is our domestic auto manufacturing. It’s one thing if BYD and others were private companies that figured out how to build EVs for way cheaper than the legacy companies. But when you have a state-owned concern being subsidized by the state selling cars for less than they were made flooding into an existing market, that will wreak havoc on our manufacturers.

I know the deal announced is for a small number of cars, but what happens when everyone demands a $6000 EV and the manufacturer is not affected by usual demand curve dynamics? Beijing also doesn’t play by the rules.

 

[Altair]

Approval of Carney government rises to 64%; 78% believe arrangement with China on canola and cars was the right thing to do.

Two thirds think the Conservatives should replace Poilievre, including 27% of Conservative voters.

bruce728.substack.com

In our survey we probed on the Prime Minister’s meeting with President Xi of China and the reduction of tariffs on canola and EV’s. The question we asked was “The Prime Minister recently met with the Chinese president and announced an agreement to reduce tariffs, which will result in some increased canola sales to China and some Chinese electric vehicles being sold in Canada. Based on what you heard or read was this the right thing to do or the wrong thing to do for Canada?”

A total of 78% said they felt it was the right thing to do including 77% in the prairie provinces, and 75% in Ontario. A majority (56%) of those who voted Conservative last year also believe it was the right step, as did 84% of NDP voters and 85% of BQ voters.

A stunning 79% say “I feel overwhelmed by the world as it is today”, including 83% among women and 85% among those under 30. People fear “things will never again feel settled in the world” (78%) and 65% “expect there will be a world war in the next 10 years”. 80% feel “America can no longer be trusted”. This includes 86% of Conservative voters.

I know another topic that has widespread support that Carney could announce, a topic that goes along the lines of America can no longer be trusted.

 

[lenaitch]

Has Transport Canada or the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved any Chinese EVs yet?

Not that I have heard, but I don't know if any have been submitted for evaluation. If a market is closed to you, why would you bother? I have no clue regarding the process, how long it would take or how much it would cost.

I know CF Moto, a Chinese manufacturer of motorcycles, ATVs, quads, etc. is now in both the Canadian and US markets.

 

[Brad Sallows]

I don’t mind that part. I would love to see that wipe his smug grin off his face and make him destitute.

He can afford it. The smug one also has X, SpaceX, Neuralink, an AI, etc. Presumably he has shares in some of them.

Many of his employees and their families couldn't shrug it off as easily.

It's impressive how much hate he attracts over his association with Trump given everything else he does.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I know CF Moto, a Chinese manufacturer of motorcycles, ATVs, quads, etc. is now in both the Canadian and US markets.

When the CF MOTO ATVs first hit the market they were cheap trash. But they have come a long way. Good friend has a SxS by them. It's been in the shop, but nothing more than my Yammy has.