Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Remius]

Where was this Pierre during the 2025 election?

Pierre had a pillow over that Pierre’s head. I’m sure he had a severe nose bleed after this.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Carney Stacking the deck more for the economics portfolio

Carney Hires BlackRock’s Purves to Help Run Trade Department

Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney appointed BlackRock Inc. economist Glenn Purves as deputy minister of international trade, a job that will give him responsibility for helping the country boost its exports to non-US markets.

www.bloomberg.com

Good, I’m completely onside. Certain roles require a certain set of experience and knowledge.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Where was this Pierre during the 2025 election?

He was busy running a campaign against JT.

 

[torg003]

If the conservatives were smart, they would dump PP and have a leadership convention to pick a new leader. They'll never win with PP at the helm. They should've dumped him when he lost his seat in the last election and picked a new leader (instead of having a newly elected member resign is seat so that PP could run in a by-election). But that's just my opinion. Carney seems to be doing a decent job so far.

 

[MilEME09]

If the conservatives were smart, they would dump PP and have a leadership convention to pick a new leader. They'll never win with PP at the helm. They should've dumped him when he lost his seat in the last election and picked a new leader (instead of having a newly elected member resign is seat so that PP could run in a by-election). But that's just my opinion. Carney seems to be doing a decent job so far.

Looking at the polling he is now on par with Andrew Scheer for popularity nationally, which didn't go well for the CPC back then. It is a lot of red flags that when the next election happens, if it leads to a liberal majority, Pierre would be done.

 

[Remius]

Looking at the polling he is now on par with Andrew Scheer for popularity nationally, which didn't go well for the CPC back then. It is a lot of red flags that when the next election happens, if it leads to a liberal majority, Pierre would be done.

If they can be adult about it, the party needs new leadership. James Moore or someone similar would be my choice. My fear is that they would pick a Jivani. Leaving us with no real alternatives again.

 

[QV]

If the conservatives were smart, they would dump PP and have a leadership convention to pick a new leader. They'll never win with PP at the helm. They should've dumped him when he lost his seat in the last election and picked a new leader (instead of having a newly elected member resign is seat so that PP could run in a by-election). But that's just my opinion. Carney seems to be doing a decent job so far.

It will not matter who is at the CPC helm, they will get the same treatment from the media.

You guys keep thinking "if only we had a unicorn.." that is simply not reality. Politics is a war of information and the MSM is almost exclusively on one side.

 

[Remius]

It will not matter who is at the CPC helm, they will get the same treatment from the media.

Except last time it was the CPC treatment of the media that contributed to its failure at the polls.

You guys keep thinking "if only we had a unicorn.." that is simply not reality. Politics is a war of information and the MSM is almost exclusively on one side.

Strangely it worked for the LPC. The found their unicorn, a conservative one, and staved off disaster.

 

[dapaterson]

Looking at the polling he is now on par with Andrew Scheer for popularity nationally, which didn't go well for the CPC back then. It is a lot of red flags that when the next election happens, if it leads to a liberal majority, Pierre would be done.

Philosophically, I hate "one and done" for leaders, as it encourages bad organizational behaviour.

Thus the rapid dumping of Scheer and O'Toole runs against my thinking - neither was granted the time and space to grow. Scheer took the government from majority to minority as Leader of the Opposition; and O'Toole kept his party afloat despite record government giveaways. Both should have got a second chance.

Which makes it hard for me to agree that the current CPC leader should not be given a second election to prove himself. (Though losing his own seat should count against him).

 

[IKnowNothing]

Which makes it hard for me to agree that the current CPC leader should not be given a second election to prove himself. (Though losing his own seat should count against him).

I would tend to agree with the sentiment- but I have trouble applying to it to a guy who has boasted about having not changed his mind / having had it all figured out since highschool, and then seemingly took a year to learn from the most epic choke job in Canadian political history.

 

[Remius]

Philosophically, I hate "one and done" for leaders, as it encourages bad organizational behaviour.

Thus the rapid dumping of Scheer and O'Toole runs against my thinking - neither was granted the time and space to grow. Scheer took the government from majority to minority as Leader of the Opposition; and O'Toole kept his party afloat despite record government giveaways. Both should have got a second chance.

Which makes it hard for me to agree that the current CPC leader should not be given a second election to prove himself. (Though losing his own seat should count against him).

I accept that argument. But only a second chance for a leader if gains can be made. Those gains have to also outweigh any losses.

 

[Nvlgzr]

If the conservatives were smart, they would dump PP and have a leadership convention to pick a new leader. They'll never win with PP at the helm. They should've dumped him when he lost his seat in the last election and picked a new leader (instead of having a newly elected member resign is seat so that PP could run in a by-election). But that's just my opinion. Carney seems to be doing a decent job so far.

The conservatives held a leadership convention in January and PP won at 87% of the vote.

 

[IKnowNothing]

Strangely it worked for the LPC. The found their unicorn, a conservative one, and staved off disaster.

That poster is not entirely wrong. A CPC that represent his ideals is always going to be on its back foot against the Canadian media, not to mention the Canadian electorate.

 

[Czech_pivo]

If they can be adult about it, the party needs new leadership. James Moore or someone similar would be my choice. My fear is that they would pick a Jivani. Leaving us with no real alternatives again.

If they pick Jivani, those remaining PC members should just pick up their marbles, leave and re-constitute the PC party and leave the Maple Maga's on their own. If that leads to political wandering the desert for 40yrs so be it.

 

[MilEME09]

The conservatives held a leadership convention in January and PP won at 87% of the vote.

Yes however that wasnt a classic everyone's invited convention, it was more a $1000 a head fundraiser of party insiders. I would be very curious if you polled every card carrying member of the CPC what his actual approval is