ineffective, no/ We have the most effective opposition that we have had in decades. Carney has been forced to roll back several of his major issues i.e. carbon tax, oil development to mention two that were part of Pierre's platform. He is if nothing else, an opportunist but, to reply to Mileme09 do I expect them to fail, yes but if they don't we could quite conceivably have the best government that we have had at least since the Harper majority and that is a great outcome.
Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???
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I somehow doubt Carney will magically change tune just because he got a majority. His policies strike me less about concessions, and more about an actual goal of the economic success of the nation. A Majority will likely fast strike some of this, The key date though will be August 2027, thats the two year mark since the MPO officially started work. If they haven't approved a project by then to start construction, they will be in trouble.
He forced a few of the concessions you would expect in a minority government, yes. He has also turned a minority government into a functional and very soon a true majority, three of those seats coming from his own caucus. So maybe you’re handing out credit pretty freely there.
We’ll see how effective he is against a majority, particularly when he loses the ability to jam things up in committee like the tax cut bill.
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To say having 41.3% of the votes for his party, 2.5% less that the grand victor, is a rejection is equally ridiculous.Your point is just a silly one.
43.8 % of the electors in 2025 chose the LPC. 41.3% chose the CPC.
To say that not winning a majority in a multi-party system equals rejection by the electorate is nonsense. To say that there was a narrow gap between those two parties but that it slightly favoured the LPC is accurate.
If you want to look at rejection then maybe you should look at the Bloc and the NDP who were chosen by only 6.3% each.
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If MP floor crossings bring about a majority we ought to run another election.
Really hammer home the "I've talked to ny constituents " proof that this is what the people want.
Price of the election is just a rounding error.
Really hammer home the "I've talked to ny constituents " proof that this is what the people want.
Price of the election is just a rounding error.
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What I really don't get is the people that are rubbing their hands with glee at the thought of the impending failure of the Carney government.
I voted Conservative in the election. But the last thing I want is for the sitting government (of whatever party) to fail the people of Canada.
So many people looking at the trade announcements and MOU's being announced are saying things like "yeah, but those are just announcements...nothing will actually come from them then Canadians will turn on Carney and then we'll beat him".
It's like they'd rather see the country suffer rather than see their political opponent succeed. Demonstrates the sad state of political discourse these days.
I voted Conservative in the election. But the last thing I want is for the sitting government (of whatever party) to fail the people of Canada.
So many people looking at the trade announcements and MOU's being announced are saying things like "yeah, but those are just announcements...nothing will actually come from them then Canadians will turn on Carney and then we'll beat him".
It's like they'd rather see the country suffer rather than see their political opponent succeed. Demonstrates the sad state of political discourse these days.
Those same people voted for a guy with a 17 page policy book that was mostly pictures of him and his wife and fancy slogans. Partisanship will always trump substance for some.
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But isn't that sentiment just the same thing in the other direction? Is the 17-page policy book the only thing that defined the years of opposition to the disaster that was JT?
I'm personally not a PP fan and think he needs to go so that the Conservatives can offer a solid alternative to Carney but it's wrong to just write off Conservative discontent because of the leader's "style"
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The disruption to the functioning the Nation in times of increased certainty is not a rounding error. Not sure that this is a good time to take the 3 PPCLI "there must be a harder way" approach
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That's true. But taken in context one also has to look at leadership approval by Canadians.
Poilievere came into the game against Trudeau with a substantial margin. By the end of 2024 the CPC polled 45% against the LPCs 20% and NDPs 20%. That was all anti-Trudeau sentiment.
Even when Carney took over, Poilievre's numbers at the time of the election were okay. At the end of April 2025, he polled 40.7% to Carney's 46.9%. Those are numbers that reflect the election results. Since then, however, Poilievre has been dropping in support to where, in March 2026, 56.9% of Canadians favour Carney and only 21.6% Poilievre. 66% of Canadians approve of the current government and 34% disapprove. If anything is being rejected by Canadians at this time it's Poilievre.
To keep touting the 2025 election result as a "rejection" of the LPC is clearly not where the country is as of today. Carney has shown himself as an effective leader who not only turned his own party around in the months before the election but who since then has built on strength to a majority approval. Poilievre in the meantime lost an election that was "in the bag," not to mention his own seat, and since then has steadily dropped in the polls. He's ineffective as an opposition leader, especially at a time where external factors are forcing a crisis at home.
Look. I've been voting PC and CPC since the 1970s right up to Harper and against JT. The current iteration of the CPC, however, has nothing for me anymore. I've never voted for JT or even Carney . . . But Carney and Carney's government are what this country needs at this time. They are, so far, pointing the country in the right direction. I'm part of that 66% majority that accepts the LPC government and rejects the current CPC. I don't doubt that there is still a mob inside the LPC that I disagree with. It will take time to see what carney can do with that and I, for one, am prepared to give him the time.
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Look at how much Poilievere gets mentioned in this thread compared to Carney, and the CPC to LPC.
People are really excited to see Poilievre fail (more). The whole what Liberals are doing in government seems to be a distant second interest.
I'm one of the most guilty, if not top dog, here.
It's a relief when a bunch of privates go on a tasking to another country and don't make a fool of themselves. It's not a metric we (should) have to hold to our PM - but we all know about Trudeaus follies.
It's true some of us just want to see the world burn and we'll always find things to lament about in government. Others simply aren't impressed anymore by shaking hands and pinky promises.
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Carney might now have a majority, but it doesn’t solve his problem of a caucus full of Trudeau re-treads.
By that metric, all parties and leaders have been rejected by voters since 1988. The last absolute majority was Brian Mulroney and the old PC’s.
By that metric, all parties and leaders have been rejected by voters since 1988. The last absolute majority was Brian Mulroney and the old PC’s.
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I think the CPC had 30 pages in their policy book and 17 pictures of Poilievre. LPC had twice the pages with just one Carney picture.
It's funny. Poilievre gets attacked for not being personable and being too mean. Too drab. So he adds some family pictures and colour. Then he gets called out for having pictures. What a sucker.
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