Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Czech_pivo]

The crazies in the LPC may stop feeling the Carney vibe and go back home top the NDP


What policy or direction of the current CPC is "far right" Specifics please.

They might, but based on what I saw during the NDP leadership convention, I'm not sure that they'd be viewed as 'crazy enough'.....

 

[ArmyRick]

@Altair how am I trolling? Lets hear it.

 

[Altair]

It feels like were drifting to towards the LPC dominating the centre as the party of governance, where the only principle is pragmatism, with the NDP and CPC becoming the parties of Left and Right wing vibes content to stand their ground and argue against the world. That might be fine for a term or two, but will be a distaster for our democracy.

What policy or direction of the current CPC is "far right" Specifics please.

Meh.

 

[ArmyRick]

Meh.

Thats what I thought.

 

[captloadie]

We put so much emphasis on the names "Conservative" and "Liberal" tying all past iterations of the parties to their current positions. I believe that if Mark Carney were wearing a blue tie, and leading the current government, making all the same decisions, most of the anti-liberal posters would be praising his governance and decisions (gun reform being the one topic that would need to change). The forum would be full of posts about how well the government was doing in these times of crisis. There would be almost no condescension because we as a forum lean toward progressive conservatism, and have driven off most of the past left leaning members of the forum.

Maybe this is because the Liberal Party of Canada has remained relatively the same over the decades, sliding left or right in their politics depending on the social desires of the loudest parts of the population. The CPC, on the other hand, has gone through multiple iterations since I became of voting age, being the PCs, the Reformers, the CPC, with group splintering off like the PPC. I think they have actually had a much greater swing of policy positions, trying to incorporate everything from far right religious beliefs, to accepting more left leaning policies (abortion, same sex, etc.)

The idea of Mark Carney poaching the best MPs from all parties, so he can put the best qualified people in cabinet to get the most important things implemented and moving forward should be something we see as being party agnostic and best for the country. He could then ride off into the sunset in 2029, having cemented his legacy in Canadian politics with nothing else he needs to accomplish in government.

 

[ArmyRick]

We put so much emphasis on the names "Conservative" and "Liberal" tying all past iterations of the parties to their current positions. I believe that if Mark Carney were wearing a blue tie, and leading the current government, making all the same decisions, most of the anti-liberal posters would be praising his governance and decisions (gun reform being the one topic that would need to change). The forum would be full of posts about how well the government was doing in these times of crisis. There would be almost no condescension because we as a forum lean toward progressive conservatism, and have driven off most of the past left leaning members of the forum.

Maybe this is because the Liberal Party of Canada has remained relatively the same over the decades, sliding left or right in their politics depending on the social desires of the loudest parts of the population. The CPC, on the other hand, has gone through multiple iterations since I became of voting age, being the PCs, the Reformers, the CPC, with group splintering off like the PPC. I think they have actually had a much greater swing of policy positions, trying to incorporate everything from far right religious beliefs, to accepting more left leaning policies (abortion, same sex, etc.)

The idea of Mark Carney poaching the best MPs from all parties, so he can put the best qualified people in cabinet to get the most important things implemented and moving forward should be something we see as being party agnostic and best for the country. He could then ride off into the sunset in 2029, having cemented his legacy in Canadian politics with nothing else he needs to accomplish in government.

That means we actually need results...and to date, those are very, very few.

 

[RangerRay]

I did suggest after the election that Carney invite the Tories into a Grand Coalition government of national unity. Looks like he’s going about that in a different manner than I would have.

 

[IKnowNothing]

I did suggest after the election that Carney invite the Tories into a Grand Coalition government of national unity. Looks like he’s going about that in a different manner than I would have.

Given that the individual overtures are happening behind closed doors, who's to say a collective/grand one didn't also? Takes two to tango