Halifax Tar
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That's the progressive trait of wanting the hard things done but not wanting to do it themselves.
Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???
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That's the progressive trait of wanting the hard things done but not wanting to do it themselves.
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The party is his.
All the key people in place in the party are his people.
He dominates the primaries contests to ensure his people get in.
The Republican party is MAGA and MAGA is the Republican party. A few senators who were there before him and will be there after him exist but make no mistake, they are not running the party.
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very possible. Only way to know will be when he is no longer the President
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We are a trading nation whose domestic output is vastly greater than our domestic demand. I would be very upset if the government (of any stripe) wasn't working at all times to protect and or grow the access to foreign markets that Canadian prosperity relies on.
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Of course. That's an example of the messaging lining up with policy.
Buying Canadian and opening / developing new market access for Canadian goods are both stated policies in the 2025 LPC platform.
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Right, the Buy Canadian procurement policy.
I recall it initially only applied to larger contracts above certain dollar thresholds and did not cover all federal purchases right away. That left many smaller contracts outside the scope of the promised prioritization. That undermined the earlier broad messaging that the government would ensure Canadian suppliers are prioritized in all spending.
That is an example of the messaging not aligning with policy.
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When it comes to Team Orange, my WAG is that this suggests that as a group, their anti-militarism is only trumped (no pun intended) by their anti-Americanism.
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Yes I remember many arguments I had with these types back in the 90’s.
Me: we need to increase defence spending
Them: we don’t need to. The Americans will defend us
Me: well in that case, go out to the flagpole, take down the Maple Leaf, and salute the Stars and Stripes going up the flagpole.
Them: …oh don’t be silly
Later…
Them: oh those damn American capitalist pigs…
You keep moving the goalposts.
Somehow you've gone from Mark Carney's pre-politics investments are hypocritical (they aren't), to Buy Canadian policy being mutually exclusive of accessing foreign markets for Canadian goods (it isn't), while also sending a confused policy message (it doesn't) to now claiming the Buy Canadian policy is not going far enough?
Prime Minister Carney announces new measures to protect and transform Canada’s steel and lumber industries
Canada’s new government has moved quickly to protect and strengthen the sectors most affected by U.S. tariffs – introducing new measures to help workers gain new skills, support businesses as they modernise and diversify, and boost domestic demand for Canadian goods.
Buy Canadian - Canada.ca
Find out how purchases from Canadian suppliers are being prioritized and processes are being streamlined for small and medium-sized Canadian businesses.
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The threshold in Ontario is 25m.
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Agreed.
My 4 areas of concern re: China.
1. They now have leverage over us. Will we pull back on Pacific military and security operations, and especially equipment purchases from South Korea.
2. Chinese companies have commercially raped Canadian mining, forestry, pulp, steel, aluminum, technology, real estate and financial organizations, we’ve done very little to prevent them from doing it all again.
3. Chinese real estate tourism. There will be pressure to lift recent restrictions on foreign buyers to accommodate Chinese real estate investors. This was the principal cause of the outrageous jump in housing prices in BC for nearly 20 years straight. That must never be allowed to happen again.
4. We still do not have a meaningful foreign registry, we still have organizations from China arriving to set up shop here. That needs to stop.
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1) In this emerging world, I think everyone is going to try and have leverage over everyone. I don’t know what else can be done for the time being.
2) That fall on both the federal and provincial governments to actually do their bloody jobs and regulate where and when necessary.
3) Agree that should never have been allowed to occur - the greed that allowed that to happen is sickening
4) That needs to occur ASAP. I would also say that an expansion of the number of CSIS operatives should be expanded as well. Lots of work for them to be doing here in Canada.
Sometimes I wish I was 22yrs old again and had all these huge career opportunities in front of me to experience.
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I think Michael Kovrig knows of what he speaks.
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Michael Kovrig (@kovrig)
When Beijing says relations have “turned around,” it’s not reassurance — it’s a test. Thursday's PRC Foreign Ministry readout of talks with Canada’s PM is packed with familiar phrases: mutual respect, core interests, seeking common ground, pragmatic cooperation. That language isn’t descriptive...
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The government messages Canadians should invest domestically while its policies and contracts often favour foreign markets. That's separate from any individual politician’s personal investments, but I think can still be relatable in terms of optics.
The government repeatedly framed Buy Canadian as prioritizing Canadian suppliers, the actual policy initially only applies to larger federal procurements (as you posted)
Buy Canadian Policy: The good, the bad and the ugly - CCPA
On December 16, the federal government’s Buy Canadian Policy officially came into effect. This is the first step towards fulfilling the Buy Canadian Policy as laid out in September, when the federal government announced its intent to favour Canadian suppliers and materials within public...
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Do you disagree that the governments initial messaging about Canadian suppliers were being prioritized in all spending was misleading?
It sounds like I could add some clarity. Could you remind me exactly where I said his pre-politics investments are hypocritical?
I think the message is more to buy Canadian. Changing government procurement policy to favour Canadian companies is a step in the right direction isn't it? Even if done incrementally? Too bad it wasn't official policy much sooner (like decades ago).
To be honest, I'm not sure if I remember the government indicating ALL spending would be immediately only in Canada. I don't believe that's possible.
I do remember a stated goal of becoming less reliant on US companies, but not to the point of excluding them completelyz
I think this is what led to my initial question:
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“I think the question you always ask yourself is, ‘What’s the bigger game plan here?’” Hampson said.
“And I think Carney believes that the China deal is a valuable bargaining chip in the upcoming CUSMA renewal negotiations.”
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“And I think Carney believes that the China deal is a valuable bargaining chip in the upcoming CUSMA renewal negotiations.”
Trump says it’s a ‘good thing’ Carney signed a deal with China
Canada reached a deal with Beijing earlier Friday to slash tariffs on a set number of Chinese electric vehicles in exchange for China cutting duties on agriculture products, including canola.
www.thestar.com
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The Gripen is a terrible choice for Canada.
See the fighter jet replacement thread for more information, I'd rather not derail this thread rehashing the same arguments.
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Buying Canadian is a great policy and definitely a great step. I trust Carney to handle it well. The down side would be if it's applied stupidly like our boot fiasco. My complaint was the messaging was disingenuous in my opinion (due to it being election time)
That was a matter of optics and the unique position politicians are by default in.
We had a party leader explaining to us how important investing in Canada was (true). That was at odds with his own personal portfolio which was manifestly pro-American. It suggested he didn't have much faith in investing in Canada (at least stock wise) leading up to the election. It raised the question how hard he would fight for Canadian companies when he stood to gain financially by Americans getting contracts.
Now what I'm more curious about is how China can go from "the biggest threat to Canada's security" in Aptil 2025 to our partner in the new world order in January 2026.
What did China do between then and now to not be such a threat to Canada?
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The Canadian stock market represents 3% of the world’s stock market value.
The TSX has consistently over the long run under performed the US stock market.
It is NOT in your best interest to invest only withi Canada or to ‘over represent’ Canada within your investment portfolio.
When it comes to my retirement and my money, I will invest it where I will have the best opportunity to make the most reuen that I can.
As for my day to day purchases, I will attempt to purchase Canadian products/goods when they are available and when they are an equal or better product available for purchase. I will not purchase inferior products just because they are Canadian. The only way they will improve their quality is by being forced by the market/consumer to do so.
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