Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Furniture]

I still maintain that Carney and the LPC aren't going to risk it on a spring election.

I suspect you're correct. So long as they can move legislation through parliament, I doubt they want to risk an election.

It's better for them to wait for some of their policies to bear fruit, rather than to hope that a bump from a great speech will carry them through.

 

[brihard]

In six months or so we’ll have decent trade data on what’s actually sailing offshore sold to China, and we’ll be able to make meaningful analysis of the efficacy of that pretty minor trade deal. Any celebration or condemnation of the terms of the trade agreement before that analysis can be done just jerking off online.

 

[Jarnhamar]

I have receipts.

Next you'll tell me the C3P0 Droid didn't have a silver leg.

 

[Altair]

Next you'll tell me the C3P0 Droid didn't have a silver leg.

C3PO didn't have a silver leg.

How did I do?

 

[Altair]

Read that article before you shove it out there. Its Canola, as in SEED not oil. WAY LESS money. and its not a large shipment, month after month. Thats what we need if Canada is dumb enough to keep growing so much Canola (and again make ourselves dependent on China).

You are known for knee jerk responses, and this is one of them, Its not the win you think it is. Do more than a five minute google search before responding.

So a sale was made. Therefore, more than nothing. Thank you.

 

[HavokFour]

Several things here, though to me the greenhouses are a big one. Food security is national security.

To lower the cost of food production, we are introducing immediate expensing for greenhouse buildings. This allows producers to fully write off greenhouses acquired on or after November 4, 2025, and that become available for use before 2030. This measure supports increased domestic supply and investment in food production over the medium-term

Prime Minister Carney announces new measures to make groceries and other essentials more affordable for Canadians

Our plan is moving Canada’s economy from reliance to resilience, though some of the biggest long-term payoffs of this transformation will take time to be felt.

www.pm.gc.ca

 

[PPCLI Guy]

So a sale was made. Therefore, more than nothing. Thank you.

So glad that we are back to the usually programmed slap fight.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Not that I have heard, but I don't know if any have been submitted for evaluation. If a market is closed to you, why would you bother? I have no clue regarding the process, how long it would take or how much it would cost.

I know CF Moto, a Chinese manufacturer of motorcycles, ATVs, quads, etc. is now in both the Canadian and US markets.

One interesting thing I heard is that China is going to mandate all cars have an exterior, mechanical handle, so that would actually require Tesla to do a design change to sell their cars there. Better than being trapped inside after a crash and dying in a fire though.

China is actually one of the international leads in a lot of the fire research around EVs and other new technologies so that's where a lot of info is coming from, and I'm sure they will make the changes required to bring them to market here fairly easily, as long as the crash test is within standard, as that's something baked into the car structure that would require a major redesign.

Worst case they develop a line meant for export, and aim for something that would meet EU, Canadian and US standards (with minor mods for regional requirements), and if they don't have one already standing by sure it will get developed remarkably fast. Lot of smart people to work on that, and they will happily build higher quality stuff that they can sell (just like they build cheap crap because there is a market for it).

 

[Jarnhamar]

C3PO didn't have a silver leg.

How did I do?

Definitely Mandela Effect

 

[Altair]

Definitely Mandela Effect

I'll just DM you.

 

[Maxman1]

One interesting thing I heard is that China is going to mandate all cars have an exterior, mechanical handle, so that would actually require Tesla to do a design change to sell their cars there. Better than being trapped inside after a crash and dying in a fire though.

Corvette uses a similar, also stupid electric door latch that has caused at least one death when the driver was trapped for several days after the battery failed and he was unable to open the door or access the emergency release.

I still don't get why they moved away from this:

 

[HavokFour]

Corvette uses a similar, also stupid electric door latch that has caused at least one death when the driver was trapped for several days after the battery failed and he was unable to open the door or access the emergency release.

I still don't get why they moved away from this:

A reminder that keeping a window breaker and seatbelt cutter tool in your vehicle isn't a bad idea. Makes for a great stocking stuffer for family and friends.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Corvette uses a similar, also stupid electric door latch that has caused at least one death when the driver was trapped for several days after the battery failed and he was unable to open the door or access the emergency release.

I still don't get why they moved away from this:

Yeah, it's not just a Tesla thing (or an EV thing). Shaving off handles has been a custom car thing for a long time as well, but not really the same as the default that comes off the line.

Steer by wire steering systems are also becoming a thing, and for same reasons not a fan.

Not that you can't build in safety features etc to electronic systems, or that mechanical systems are infallible, but at least with a mechanical linkage you can inspect it and repair it. Electronic systems can fail with no warning because the wrong 1 got turned into a zero on a software update or glitch, and have way less faith in the QC process (especially with AI being used to write code at scale).

 

[YZT580]

Corvette uses a similar, also stupid electric door latch that has caused at least one death when the driver was trapped for several days after the battery failed and he was unable to open the door or access the emergency release.

I still don't get why they moved away from this:

And other changes like no-draft windows, I miss them. Must use AC now on the highway instead of fresh air.

 

[GR66]

Has Transport Canada or the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved any Chinese EVs yet?

I recall reading somewhere that most (if not all?) the Chinese EV's that were imported by Canada before the 100% tariffs went into effect were Teslas built in China.

From ChatGPT:

Yes — there have been Tesla automobiles built in China that were imported into Canada. Here’s what’s known:

China-built Teslas Sold in Canada

• Starting in 2023, Tesla began exporting Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built at its Gigafactory Shanghai (China) to Canada for sale and delivery. These vehicles appeared on the Tesla Canada website with VIN codes indicating they were made in China.
• The exported China-built vehicles included rear-wheel drive Model Y variants and Long Range all-wheel drive Model 3s, and they were eligible for Canadian federal EV incentives because Canada doesn’t tie incentives to where the vehicle was manufactured.
• Canadian inventory records from that period showed a small number of China-built Model Y and Model 3 units “ready for delivery” across several provinces, identifiable by VINs starting with the prefix assigned to the Shanghai facility.

Changes After Trade Policy Shifts

• After 2023, Canada imposed a 100% tariff on Chinese electric vehicles, which significantly reduced or paused China-to-Canada imports. Tesla then shifted its supply for the Canadian market to cars built at its Fremont (USA) and Berlin (Germany) factories.
• As of early 2026, a new trade deal between Canada and China reduced tariffs on Chinese EVs and created quotas for imports, which could allow Tesla to resume exporting China-built models to Canada under more favorable conditions.

How to Tell If a Tesla Was Built in China

If you’re checking a specific vehicle:

• The VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) can tell you where it was manufactured. China-built Teslas from Shanghai generally start with “LRW”.

Summary: Yes — Tesla did ship and sell China-built Model 3 and Model Y vehicles in Canada beginning in 2023, marking some of the first China-manufactured Tesla exports into the Canadian market. Trade policy changes later disrupted that, with Tesla shifting supply to its U.S. and European factories, but recent policy updates could lead to more China-to-Canada imports again.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Several things here, though to me the greenhouses are a big one. Food security is national security.

Prime Minister Carney announces new measures to make groceries and other essentials more affordable for Canadians

Our plan is moving Canada’s economy from reliance to resilience, though some of the biggest long-term payoffs of this transformation will take time to be felt.

www.pm.gc.ca

The vast majority of the workers in those greenhouses, if they are located in Essex County (Kingsville-Leamington) will be staffed with legal Mexican workers on 1yr renewable work visas.

 

[lenaitch]

Same as with a hypothetical Alberta separation - why would Canada not allow existing Canadian citizens to retain their dual citizenship? What would be the criteria for revocation of citizenship? Would we suddenly refuse to recognize dual citizenship in the unique case of Quebec/Alberta?

Corvette uses a similar, also stupid electric door latch that has caused at least one death when the driver was trapped for several days after the battery failed and he was unable to open the door or access the emergency release.

I still don't get why they moved away from this:

Tech for tech's sake.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

The vast majority of the workers in those greenhouses, if they are located in Essex County (Kingsville-Leamington) will be staffed with legal Mexican workers on 1yr renewable work visas.

I am aware of trials to use synthetic labour to increase output / viability of large scale greenhouse operations. Automation is perfect for the 4 Ds: dull, dirty, dangerous, or demeaning, and there are Canadian companies that are market-ready to meet that demand

 

[daftandbarmy]

I am aware of trials to use synthetic labour to increase output / viability of large scale greenhouse operations. Automation is perfect for the 4 Ds: dull, dirty, dangerous, or demeaning, and there are Canadian companies that are market-ready to meet that demand

Vertical farming enters the chat:


B.C. entrepreneurs see sky as limit for vertical farming

Indoor farming expected to grow as dominant source for leafy greens in next decade

Up Vertical Farms launched production in March at its fully automated, custom-built, vertical-farming facility in Pitt Meadows.

Brothers Shahram and Bahram Rashti founded and financed the multimillion-dollar operation that is in a 50,000-square-foot building on 10 acres of ALR land, and they designed the company’s equipment, CEO Bahram Rashti told BIV.

https://www.biv.com/news/resources-agriculture/bc-entrepreneurs-see-sky-limit-vertical-farming-8271212

 

[Czech_pivo]

I am aware of trials to use synthetic labour to increase output / viability of large scale greenhouse operations. Automation is perfect for the 4 Ds: dull, dirty, dangerous, or demeaning, and there are Canadian companies that are market-ready to meet that demand

2 of the 4 D's correctly describe working on the line building a car, whether back at the old Plant 3 in Windsor where I worked as a Uni student or anywhere else in the world.