Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???
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HavokFour
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The ides of April doesn't really have the same ring to it.
Guess we'll see after Monday.
Wasn’t Slapinsky the one posting some uh… rather eyebrows-raising and clearly admiring AI pictures of Poilievre for months on end?
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Haggis
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Not as long as Nathalie is in his caucus.
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If I'm a "left of most of the CPC" MP in Alberta then I'm looking at jumping now to get an O&G portfolio - Gladu will otherwise get it.
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The character of the floor crosses directly reflects the integrity, accountability and transparency typical of the Liberals.
Media playing many of the MP Gladu clips from last year and this year, F-ing wow. Only a few days ago she harshly criticized the Liberals.
Media playing many of the MP Gladu clips from last year and this year, F-ing wow. Only a few days ago she harshly criticized the Liberals.
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It's been in the news in recent years,
Threats, harassment driving women out of politics, MPs warn
Threats, harassment driving women out of politics, MPs warn
As longtime Liberal MP Pam Damoff prepares to leave politics when the next federal election is called she is wistful but open about what is driving her to step away from a career she has had for more than a decade.
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now the star is jumping in on this
I think the way PMMC looks at things, simply being Albertan may not count for much; it’ll depend on the depth of the CV. Gladu’s a petrochemical engineer and was head engineer for Suncor. That’s some serious oil patch credibility. An Alberta MP with a significant energy, infrastructure, or finance background? Good chance they could negotiate a decent role that they could take back to constituents to justify the flip.
Someone earlier mentioned potentially a small gaggle of MPs in B.C., presumably the sort of areas a pipeline may go through. I could similarly see crossers there pitching it to constituents as “we want this to happen and I want to work with the government to try to get the best local economic benefits”.
Eventful few weeks- Lori Idlout and Marilyn Gladu both defecting to join the liberals in quick succession. PM Carney’s definitely brought something different and distinct to the table.
It’s interesting seeing the pure pragmatism and theatrics of Parliamentary politics laid so bare at the same time so many Canadians are getting a fast and deep lesson on the Westminster system.
A year and a bit ago a lot of us were saying the LPC really needed to get their asses kicked so they could rejuvenate and hoist aboard some lessons about what voters are expecting. Lo and behold they begun to course correct just in time to miss the iceberg - assisted, of course, by other factors - and now the loyal opposition is in a position to learn some needed lessons and similarly reset.
Finally, I’m not a toastologist, but I did make my wife some toast today, and I think Pierre Poilievre is toast. I’ll happily raise a glass to that if so.
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The question is what lessons the CPC learns.
I want a viable opposition. Not Reform Redux.
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I would warn again that history is out teacher especially in politics.
I stand by my statement that Arrogance kills the Liberals and complacency kills the conservatives. While i think the conservatives may be feeling some of that lesson in real time, think about the much bigger danger that happens to PM MC in time (assuming he doesn't alter course, which if he steals Pierre's platform and executes it, hell, I am good), the Liberals are very much after that majority.
Warren Kinesella warned a few days ago "If they get their majority, then what? They better actually do something with it". Warren has had the most accurate political insight of any commentator/journalist I have ever seen (I say that knowing he usually stands by his fellow Liberals).
So the Liberals get their majority (I thought it would be for sure in the three by elections), and the conservatives may very well have to push out their leader. The same one that increased their seat count by 24 seats, errr, oops I mean 20 seats.
OK so they do switch leaders. The Liberals may come to truly regret who replaces Pierre Poilievre. Kathleen Wynne led the Ontario Liberals to a super loss from a majority government in 2018 after 15 years as ruling power in Ontario. If Carney doesn't walk carefully, that can still happen in 2029 (I still think if Trudeau stayed, the LPC would be third or fourth place party) .
I stand by my statement that Arrogance kills the Liberals and complacency kills the conservatives. While i think the conservatives may be feeling some of that lesson in real time, think about the much bigger danger that happens to PM MC in time (assuming he doesn't alter course, which if he steals Pierre's platform and executes it, hell, I am good), the Liberals are very much after that majority.
Warren Kinesella warned a few days ago "If they get their majority, then what? They better actually do something with it". Warren has had the most accurate political insight of any commentator/journalist I have ever seen (I say that knowing he usually stands by his fellow Liberals).
So the Liberals get their majority (I thought it would be for sure in the three by elections), and the conservatives may very well have to push out their leader. The same one that increased their seat count by 24 seats, errr, oops I mean 20 seats.
OK so they do switch leaders. The Liberals may come to truly regret who replaces Pierre Poilievre. Kathleen Wynne led the Ontario Liberals to a super loss from a majority government in 2018 after 15 years as ruling power in Ontario. If Carney doesn't walk carefully, that can still happen in 2029 (I still think if Trudeau stayed, the LPC would be third or fourth place party) .
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Ahem, ahem Pierre increased the seat count by 24 but hey, they totally lost the last election, right?
I am saying there is an appetite for what he was pushing. If you want a red tory, then vote Carney's Liberals.
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Meanwhile, lurking in the Western Separatist weeds...
‘We need to unite the country,’ Poilievre says after Manning warns of looming crisis
KINGSTON — Pierre Poilievre called for national unity in the middle of a federal election and a worsening trade dispute with the United States -- rejecting comments made by a prominent figure in conservative politics.
“We need to unite the country. We need to bring all Canadians together in a spirit of common ground,” the Conservative leader said Thursday in Kingston, Ont.
Poilievre was responding to a question about a recent opinion article by Preston Manning, former leader of the Reform Party of Canada, a predecessor of the modern federal Conservative party.
Manning warned of a “Western secession” crisis if the Liberals win a fourth term in government, arguing that some provinces in the region would seek to separate from Canada.
“Large numbers of Westerners simply will not stand for another four years of Liberal government, no matter who leads it,” Manning wrote in an op-ed published in The Globe and Mail on Wednesday.
‘We need to unite the country,’ Poilievre says after Manning warns of looming crisis
Pierre Poilievre is calling for national unity in the middle of the federal election and a worsening trade dispute with the United States — rejecting comments made by a prominent figure in conservative politics.
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Hell yeah! I actually would like to see if the policies and results from them come with it. If the same effect happens without Pierre, I can live with that.
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True but see my post above. If Carney can pull enough Conservatives into his team while at the same time displacing the left wing nut jobs, he’ll pull off a realignment to a party position that is only moderately left instead of extreme left. Maybe.
But if he gains a majority and proceeds with the socialist plans of his left wing, he’ll be the last Canadian prime minister of most of coastal Western Canada.
All the constitutional rules be damned, if he can be underhanded with democracy so can the rest of the political establishments.
In other words and more plainly, he’s broken the China but still has a table to feed. Let’s see if it’s meat or more tofu- fake meat.
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