Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[Brad Sallows]

Right...so circumstances don't matter to you. Well, at least now I know.

If new brunswick was sitting on massive oil reserves and Alberta wasn't Alberta would be the relative failure. Gotcha.

I don't agree but at least I understand your worldview. Canada, despite not having the structural advantages the USA has and is more akin to it's other G7 peers should strive to be performing on the level of a global superpower by the magic of being Canadian.

Have a good night.

Enjoy beating your strawmen.

 

[dapaterson]

Is that accurate? 2.5 hours worth of effort this week?

There may be a degree of work outside the meetings...

 

[Jarnhamar]

There may be a degree of work outside the meetings...

Brainstorming lunches at Barefax.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Brainstorming lunches at Barefax.

Is Pig Al's still what it used to be ?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Shocked I tell you, shocked lol

Idiots, you did this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2088192754480246974

And the party membership that voted for him to remain.

 

[dapaterson]

Brainstorming lunches at Barefax.

Evaluation of proposals. Assessments of trade-offs. Review of options not yet put on the table to consider follow on approaches.

Not everyone show up at a meeting unprepared without an agenda (cough a former CO of mine).

 

[The Bread Guy]

Interesting prospect ....

Conservative New Brunswick MP who wants to skip pay raise takes request to court

Conservative MP Mike Dawson is fighting to forego the annual pay raise given to members of Parliament, though the House of Commons argues he is legally required to accept the money.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Altair]

Shocked I tell you, shocked lol

Idiots, you did this.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2088192754480246974

Conservative candidate says he’s heard Poilievre criticism from voters | Globalnews.ca

The comments came during an all-candidates panel for the Aug. 31 byelection in North Vancouver—Capilano, where the Conservatives are hoping to flip a seat from the Liberals.

globalnews.ca

A Conservative candidate running in a federal byelection in B.C. acknowledged this week he’s heard criticisms about party leader Pierre Poilievre from voters as he campaigns, while seeking to separate himself from the rest of the Conservative caucus.

The comments came during an all-candidates panel for the Aug. 31 byelection in the riding of North Vancouver—Capilano, held Thursday at the Amica Lions Gate senior’s residence in West Vancouver.

The event was not open to the media, but Global News obtained video of the exchange between an audience member and Conservative candidate Stephen Curran from a source involved with the campaign of Liberal candidate Braeden Caley, who was also at the event along with Green Party candidate Shelley Luce.

In the video, the audience member called Poilievre “divisive in the extreme” and asked Curran about the perception that the Conservatives were unwilling to collaborate with the Liberal government and other opposition parties.

“I’ll confess, it’s not a question that I haven’t heard on the doorsteps as well,” Curran replied.

“The last thing I’ll mention to you is that Mr. Poilievre and the rest of the Conservative caucus are not on the ballot,” Curran said.

“It’s up to you to look at me and look at my face and see if you think I’m telling the truth, and whether I am actually going to be a constructive agent representing your interests in Parliament or not. And I hope that you believe that I will, because I’m going to be working very hard for you.”

The audience member responded to Curran, “I think you will, but I think Mr. Poilievre won’t let you.”

I find this both funny and sad.

Kind of like in the series of by elections before Trudeau resigned, the campaign posters didn't have Trudeaus face on them.

 

[RangerRay]

Conservative candidate says he’s heard Poilievre criticism from voters | Globalnews.ca

The comments came during an all-candidates panel for the Aug. 31 byelection in North Vancouver—Capilano, where the Conservatives are hoping to flip a seat from the Liberals.

globalnews.ca

I find this both funny and sad.

Kind of like in the series of by elections before Trudeau resigned, the campaign posters didn't have Trudeaus face on them.

Candidate receiving a shitogram from Jenni Byrne in 3…2…1…

 

[dapaterson]

Interesting prospect ....

Conservative New Brunswick MP who wants to skip pay raise takes request to court

Conservative MP Mike Dawson is fighting to forego the annual pay raise given to members of Parliament, though the House of Commons argues he is legally required to accept the money.

www.ctvnews.ca

He has the ability to make charitable donations of any amount he feels is excessive.

 

[Altair]

He has the ability to make charitable donations of any amount he feels is excessive.

That's not nearly as performative though.

 

[HavokFour]

Conservative candidate says he’s heard Poilievre criticism from voters | Globalnews.ca

The comments came during an all-candidates panel for the Aug. 31 byelection in North Vancouver—Capilano, where the Conservatives are hoping to flip a seat from the Liberals.

globalnews.ca

I find this both funny and sad.

Kind of like in the series of by elections before Trudeau resigned, the campaign posters didn't have Trudeaus face on them.

That's a new one, occasionally you'll see a backbencher go off script. He hasn't even made it to the bench yet.

 

[Good2Golf]

That's a new one, occasionally you'll see a backbencher go off script. He hasn't even made it to the bench yet.

He might be in two weeks. Maybe he’s received feedback through campaigning that holding the line on MP salary is a winning factor?

 

[The Bread Guy]

Some more tea leaves to read as part of the big picture ....

Parti Québécois says it won't hold referendum on sovereignty while Trump is president

MONTREAL - The leader of the Parti Québécois says his party would not call a referendum on sovereignty if it forms a government until Donald Trump leaves the White House.

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

PQ won’t hold sovereignty referendum ‘while Donald Trump is president’

Parti Québécois Leader Paul St-Pierre Plamondon says his party won’t hold a referendum on Quebec sovereignty 'while Donald Trump is president.'

www.ctvnews.ca

Quebec separatist leader says no independence referendum until Trump leaves office

The leader of Quebec's separatist party says he would delay any independence referendum until Donald Trump is no longer U.S. president. Paul St-Pierre Plamondon said Tuesday that his government would

www.bozemandailychronicle.com

 

[Czech_pivo]

Interesting.

 

[PrairieFella]

This is probably the last kick at the can theyll ever get. Public opinion and demographics are not in their favour. Projects like ALTO which connect the region will make the chance even harder. As much as I think theyre a joke, its a wise call by the PQ to take away the "Trumpist" criticism from federalists. They have an uphill battle and are going to try to stack the deck as much as possible.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I'm not so certain of that.

There has been a slow and steady rise of 'the regions' throughout the EU (and UK) over the last 30 odd years. I studied the beginnings of it when I did my graduate work in Belgium/The Netherlands in the early-mid 90's. The EU at that time was beginning to champion the pushing of centralised power from the various capitals out to the regions and localities. This the sort of stuff that eventually lead to Scotland getting its Parliament back, Wales getting more say in what happens in Wales and Cardiff getting more control of local issues, as 2 examples. Spain is a whole other example that the EU policies has only made more apparent.

Belgium was, and still remains, the ultimate devolution of power from the center out to the regions. This was pronounced to me as a CDN living in Flanders (Leuven, not Louvain) in 93/94 on how people viewed where they lived, how they thought of themselves and what was expected to be under the power of the region (Flanders), the language (Vlaams) vs what role Brussels/Bruxelles had in the day to day lives of the people. Don't get me talking about language in Belgium, the fact that whole cities/towns/villages/areas have completely different names depending on if you live in Flanders vs Wallonia is crazy, confusing and maddening - Leuven/Louvain, Namur/Namen, Liege/Luik, Gent/Ghent, Bruges/Bruggen, Anwers/Antwerp - as some quick top of them head examples.

Moving then on to Prague in mid 95,(roughly 18 months after the breakup of Czechoslovakia to the Czech Republic and Slovakia), for work gave me another unique perspective on how people viewed themselves, their capital, the regions (Bohemia vs Moravia vs Prague) and the former Slovak areas after a very civilized breakup was interesting.

All this to say that I don't see the question of 'separation' going away in Quebec. If various regions/areas in Europe continue to gain more control of their daily lives and taxes, it will only serve to strengthen the cause of those wanting more in Quebec.

In addition, I dare say that I could even see in the next 20yrs talk of similar 'separations' even being considered in the US.

This is probably the last kick at the can theyll ever get. Public opinion and demographics are not in their favour. Projects like ALTO which connect the region will make the chance even harder. As much as I think theyre a joke, its a wise call by the PQ to take away the "Trumpist" criticism from federalists. They have an uphill battle and are going to try to stack the deck as much as possible