Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

[PPCLI Guy]

Maybe have your morning coffee and take a break?

 

[Nvlgzr]

Carney is in the big chair and does not hesitate to take credit for every slight uptick in GDP, job numbers when they happen and small success stories but when shit goes south or sideways, ohhh, its not his fault. People like you enable that mindset.

Yes , Carney took credit for past events when he was running for election and Harper disputed the claim. But since then I think you’re confusing his ministers for himself. All politicians will try to take credit when they can and avoid commentary when things go sideways. Harper was no different. I liked some of his policies but other times he seemed to have his nose deep into Cheney’s buttocks. And if you’re going to say “but Justin…” don’t waste your breath; I think you’ll find most people on this blog consider him as the worst PM since poor Kim Campbell.

“People like you enable that mindset.” Wow, that’s a reach.

 

[markppcli]

I don't believe in birth tourism. And that should a closed loophole.

If your parents aren't Canadians then don't get to be one just because your mom calfed you here.

So im not Canadian enough? How many generations of born here make you Canadian? Whats your definition? When are people "Canadian" enough when they're born here is it about taxes paid or cultural adoption?

"Calfed you here" Jesus christ man.

 

[brihard]

So im not Canadian enough? How many generations of born here make you Canadian? Whats your definition? When are peiple "Canadian" enough when theyre born here is it about taxes paid or cultural adoption?

"Calved you here" Jesus christ man.

Indeed. That was a particularly shit take.

Flat yes; if born here, you get to be Canadian, save for the very few cases of someone born in country to, e.g., a foreign diplomat.

Having seen the quality of a lot of born in Canada Canadians with generations of Canadian roots, it’s not a status I’m gonna put on a pedestal.

 

[markppcli]

Indeed. That was a particularly shit take.

Flat yes; if born here, you get to be Canadian, save for the very few cases of someone born in country to, e.g., a foreign diplomat.

Having seen the quality of a lot of born in Canada Canadians with generations of Canadian roots, it’s not a status I’m gonna put on a pedestal.

I wonder if he told his wife she calfed his kids or if theres some other qualifier to referring to kids as livestock.

 

[YZT580]

I wonder if he told his wife she calfed his kids or if theres some other qualifier to referring to kids as livestock.

you are certainly sensitive. I just chuckled when I read it which I think is what he intended. There are a number of claimants who have arrived here pregnant just to ensure that their child is born Canadian and it is harder to send them back when their case is rejected which it would have been otherwise. They are treating their new-borne like a gambling chip so maybe the livestock picture is closer to reality.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Could meet in the middle and only PRs qualify for their children's citizenship when they're born here.

 

[brihard]

you are certainly sensitive. I just chuckled when I read it which I think is what he intended. There are a number of claimants who have arrived here pregnant just to ensure that their child is born Canadian and it is harder to send them back when their case is rejected which it would have been otherwise. They are treating their new-borne like a gambling chip so maybe the livestock picture is closer to reality.

It’s not necessarily as easy for pregnant women to get admitted to Canada as some would think…

Could meet in the middle and only PRs qualify for their children's citizenship when they're born here.

This isn’t outlandish. It’s an idea worth exploring.

 

[markppcli]

you are certainly sensitive. I just chuckled when I read it which I think is what he intended. There are a number of claimants who have arrived here pregnant just to ensure that their child is born Canadian and it is harder to send them back when their case is rejected which it would have been otherwise. They are treating their new-borne like a gambling chip so maybe the livestock picture is closer to reality.

This is a massively overstated claim perpetuated by a group of people who have a very specific view of what Canadian means. I dont generally like people dehumanizing other people, and I dont like my mother being compared to live stock.

 

[Nvlgzr]

Just to stir the pot…My grandfathers immigrated from Scotland and England. They fought in WW1 with CANADA on their shoulder patch. Are they Canadian?

 

[Halifax Tar]

@markppcli & @brihard

If you had read the whole of the exchange you would see that the I understood the position to be one of birth tourism.

As for your pearl clutching and sensitivities... nah I don't really care.

Cheers lads!

 

[brihard]

@markppcli & @brihard

If you had read the whole of the exchange you would see that the I understood the position to be one of birth tourism.

As for your pearl clutching and sensitivities... nah I don't really care.

Cheers lads!

It’s still a shit take because it’s built on an unsound factual assumption. You’re quick to react to things that suit your political views, and have already admitted in the past that you’re often not inclined to actually check source material or otherwise verify if something is true. So-called “birth tourism” is a politically incendiary catchphrase, but doesn’t bear a lot of relation to reality in Canada.

So, it is what it is and I’m just calling it as I see it.

In acknowledgment of my own bias, I’m married to a naturalized Canadian. Fortunately my half-calved kids should be safe from disruptive policy change.

 

[markppcli]

@markppcli & @brihard

If you had read the whole of the exchange you would see that the I understood the position to be one of birth tourism.

As for your pearl clutching and sensitivities... nah I don't really care.

Cheers lads!

If calling you out for barely disguised racism is pearl clutch, ill clutch pearls all day. How many more deployments do I need to do before im a real Canadian in your eyes?

 

[markppcli]

Just to stir the pot…My grandfathers immigrated from Scotland and England. They fought in WW1 with CANADA on their shoulder patch. Are they Canadian?

According to @Halifax Tar your parents certainly arent.

 

[Halifax Tar]

It’s still a shit take because it’s built on an unsound factual assumption. You’re quick to react to things that suit your political views, and have already admitted in the past that you’re often not inclined to actually check source material or otherwise verify if something is true. So-called “birth tourism” is a politically incendiary catchphrase, but doesn’t bear a lot of relation to reality in Canada.

So, it is what it is and I’m just calling it as I see it.

In acknowledgment of my own bias, I’m married to a naturalized Canadian. Fortunately my half-calved kids should be safe from disruptive policy change.

Did your wife's parents come to Canada just to calve their daughter in order to secure a passport ?

Canada must address its birth tourism problem: Sergio R. Karas for Inside Policy | Macdonald-Laurier Institute

By Sergio R. Karas, July 11, 2025 Amid rising concerns about the prevalence of birth tourism, many Western democracies are taking steps to curb the

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If calling you out for barely disguised racism is pearl clutch, ill clutch pearls all day. How many more deployments do I need to do before im a real Canadian in your eyes?

Exactly what race is immigration ?

 

[markppcli]

Did your wife's parents come to Canada just to calve their daughter in order to secure a passport ?

So do you need to keep calling human beings livestock because it gives you a sense of power or something? Like why does that make you feel like your winning is my question?

Exactly what race, exactly, is immigration ?

You're right, I'm just assuming you birth tourism nonsense targets specific countries as opposed to say Europe.