McG
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The Logistic Vehicle Modernization Project is beginning to replace the LUVW, LSVW, and HLVW … and possibly/probably the miscellaneous heavier support vehicles including SHLVW, HESV and AHSVS. I thought it might be interesting to get some collective ideas on what it is we need or what sort of end-state our fleet may look like, and any other generic comments on future support/logistic fleets.
As a pedantic starting point, I will suggest that the acronym that names any new vehicles should not end in “S.” “S” is for the system and implies not just a vehicle but all the vehicles (potentially including vehicles of different types), any PLS based shelter or mission systems, trailers, and other “bits” of the whole capability. It is wrong that we currently refer to trucks as AHSVS or MSVS, and in the future we should not have LSVS, LUVS, HSVS or any other such acronym as the name referencing the truck itself.
Now, on to more important things. On the light side of the spectrum, I think we have need of something that fills the liaison (G-wagon) to cargo (LSVW, MilCOTS), troop caring (LSVW) and special purpose roles (G-wagon,LSVW, MilCOTS). In the civilian world this would represent everything from jeep/SUV, to pick-up truck and full-sized van … in the military we have typically used pickups in the van role. What I propose we need is a single vehicle type that comes in different wheel base lengths and different bodies. This simplifies logistics and reduces training requirements. For each wheel base, I would envision a full-length cab variant (in a G-Wagon/SUV sort of style). I would also see an extended pickup cab (2 to 3 crew + pers kit) and crew cab (2-3 crew + 2 passengers) that would be common to both the standard and extended wheel base versions.
All vehicles would have MMG/HMG/AGL mounts (either light RWS or a machine gunner’s hatch). A lightweight General Purpose Vehicle fleet might consist of:
Given that MSVS is bringing in vehicles that are almost as large & heavy as the HLVW, we may want to give consideration to something between MSVS and an LGPV (as I proposed it). On the other end of the spectrum, additional vehicles of the eventual MSVS variety could cover some HLVW replacement needs. The rest of the HLVW replacement could be satisfied with a family of vehicles that have capacity to replace the heavier vehicles (HESV, SHLVW, etc) as well.
As a pedantic starting point, I will suggest that the acronym that names any new vehicles should not end in “S.” “S” is for the system and implies not just a vehicle but all the vehicles (potentially including vehicles of different types), any PLS based shelter or mission systems, trailers, and other “bits” of the whole capability. It is wrong that we currently refer to trucks as AHSVS or MSVS, and in the future we should not have LSVS, LUVS, HSVS or any other such acronym as the name referencing the truck itself.
Now, on to more important things. On the light side of the spectrum, I think we have need of something that fills the liaison (G-wagon) to cargo (LSVW, MilCOTS), troop caring (LSVW) and special purpose roles (G-wagon,LSVW, MilCOTS). In the civilian world this would represent everything from jeep/SUV, to pick-up truck and full-sized van … in the military we have typically used pickups in the van role. What I propose we need is a single vehicle type that comes in different wheel base lengths and different bodies. This simplifies logistics and reduces training requirements. For each wheel base, I would envision a full-length cab variant (in a G-Wagon/SUV sort of style). I would also see an extended pickup cab (2 to 3 crew + pers kit) and crew cab (2-3 crew + 2 passengers) that would be common to both the standard and extended wheel base versions.
All vehicles would have MMG/HMG/AGL mounts (either light RWS or a machine gunner’s hatch). A lightweight General Purpose Vehicle fleet might consist of:
- Short Wheel Base
- Jeep-style comd & liaison vehicle with 3 crew & 2 passengers
- Jeep-style provost vehicle with 3 crew
- Standard Wheel Base
- Jeep-style liaison vehicle with 3 crew & 4 passengers
- Pickup Extended Cab-style cargo vehicle with 2 crew
- Pickup Crew Cab-style cargo vehicle with 3 crew & 2 passengers
- Misc Pickup Extended Cab-style SEV with 2 crew
- Misc Pickup Crew Cab-style SEV with 3 crew & 2 passengers
- Extended Wheel Base
- Nyala layout liaison & TCV with 3 crew & 6 passengers
- Pickup Extended Cab-style Ambulance with 2 crew up-front
- Misc Pickup Extended Cab-style SEV with 2 crew
- Misc Pickup Crew Cab-style SEV with 3 crew & 2 passengers
Given that MSVS is bringing in vehicles that are almost as large & heavy as the HLVW, we may want to give consideration to something between MSVS and an LGPV (as I proposed it). On the other end of the spectrum, additional vehicles of the eventual MSVS variety could cover some HLVW replacement needs. The rest of the HLVW replacement could be satisfied with a family of vehicles that have capacity to replace the heavier vehicles (HESV, SHLVW, etc) as well.