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London Riots

Technoviking said:
THIS is the best story on the riots.  It's not the tragedy of the riots, but the triumph of the average citizens that restores my faith in humanity.
Agreed - shame this doesn't fit the "if it bleeds, it leads" MSM paradigm  :(
 
"Rioting youths attack London ambulance crews:
Rioting youths threw missiles at ambulance crews as they tried to help people injured in the violent disorder":
http://www.ems1.com/mass-casualty-incidents-mci/articles/1101165-Rioting-youths-attack-London-ambulance-crews/

"On some occasions, this was made even more difficult as missiles were thrown at our vehicles and crews were threatened and intimidated while trying to care for people."

( Attached photo from England in 2009: "Ambulance with a riot shield: Disturbing face of crowd control on our streets." )


 
a good historian's viewpoint . . .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024284/UK-riots-2011-Liberal-dogma-spawned-generation-brutalised-youths.html

gotta say he hits a lot of true notes.
 
What of all the "bystanders" filming everything. You see them in every picture/film of the riots. None are having an active role but none are stopping it either. Have we become such voyeurs that being able to capture something terrible on camera outweighs doing what's right?
 
Dovely74 said:
What of all the "bystanders" filming everything. You see them in every picture/film of the riots. None are having an active role but none are stopping it either. Have we become such voyeurs that being able to capture something terrible on camera outweighs doing what's right?

When I see you trying to stop several dozen people riot, then I will take this comment seriously. The rioters have already proven they will attack, beat and rob random people on the street. Sorry buds, Rambo isn't real. The best these individuals can do is get pictures and turn them in to police. Though I do have a lot of respect for the groups of shopkeepers who make human shields between the rioters and their property.
 
Even the anarchists are saying, "hey, be careful who you attack, guys":
.... Riots in the eighties tended to be directed in a more targeted way; avoiding innocents and focusing on targets more representative of class and race oppression: police, police stations, and shops. What's happened since the eighties? Consecutive governments have gone to great lengths to destroy any sort of notion of working class solidarity and identity. Is it any surprise, then, that these rioters turn on other members of our class?

The Solidarity Federation is based in resistance through workplace struggle. We are not involved in the looting and unlike the knee-jerk right or even the sympathetic-but-condemnatory commentators from the left, we will not condemn or condone those we don't know for taking back some of the wealth they have been denied all their lives.

But as revolutionaries, we cannot condone attacks on working people, on the innocent. Burning out shops with homes above them, people's transport to work, muggings and the like are an attack on our own and should be resisted as strongly as any other measure from government "austerity" politics, to price-gouging landlords, to bosses intent on stealing our labour. Tonight and for as long as it takes, people should band together to defend themselves when such violence threatens homes and communities.

We believe that the legitimate anger of the rioters can be far more powerful if it is directed in a collective, democratic way and seeks not to victimise other workers, but to create a world free of the exploitation and inequality inherent to capitalism.
 
Haletown said:
Charges have already been laid in the UK and meanwhile in Vancouver not a single hooligan, thug or Entitled youth has yet been charged.

Well done the Rozzers! I know a couple of senior guys in the Met and don't envy the bad guys.

Good article here that explains why the 'nanny state' built under Labour backfired:

The British state is morbidly obese. For a third consecutive year, government will spend more than half the gross domestic product — partly because half of all jobs created during the 13 years of Labour Party governance that ended in May 2010 were in the public sector.

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/08/11/george-f-will-british-state-spending-is-morbidly-obese/

 
To rioters/looters organizing via social media:  those who live by the sword.....
Britons took to social networking sites on Wednesday to expose the rioters who went on the rampage for four nights, posting photos of masked gangs looting and hurling missiles.

Much of the violence, which started in London but has since spread to other parts of the country, was captured on mobile phone cameras, video recorders or CCTV, and the images quickly found their way into cyberspace.

London's Metropolitan Police made a tentative attempt to use social media to track down suspects, putting up 25 photos of youths breaking into shops and lobbing missiles on photo-sharing site flickr.

But the official effort paled in comparison to the surge of activity by amateur web investigators.

One such project is a web page called "Catch A Looter", which has been set up on blog-hosting website tumblr and features dozens of photos from the London riots.

Images showed looters walking out of shops with electrical goods, clothes and bottles and close-up shots of rioters hurling missiles.

The anonymous creator of the site urged web surfers to get in touch with Crimestoppers, a charity that allows people to anonymously pass on information about crimes, if they recognised anyone on the site ....
Here's the "Catch a Looter" site if you're interested.
 
Jim Seggie said:
The hackers that blogged that RIM would be harmed in some way should be hunted down and prosecuted as well.

Jim, all those hackers did was strengthen our resolve to help out. 
 
thug, meet Mr. Lamp Pole


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPdQCuc7CZo&feature=player_embedded

 
New logo for the London 2012 Summer games



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GDAiwQ-0eY8/TkLxu7aN5CI/AAAAAAABHpc/_eAy_2G4Akk/s1600/2012.jpg
 
Technoviking said:
THIS is the best story on the riots.  It's not the tragedy of the riots, but the triumph of the average citizens that restores my faith in humanity.

Out of the anger and dispair comes a tiny flash point of hope.
 
Millwall's out.....

Truly the Lord works in mysterious ways.... The thugs have delivered the Millenium:

Shopkeepers, Turks, Bengalis, Somalis, Accountantants and Millwall supporters united in something.

Edit: Oops - I forgot the Anarchists...  Astounding.
 
Another example of ultimate low-lifery:  Robbers pretend to be 'helping' an injured youth, while robbing from his back pack. >:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZTywgv9s6Y&feature=related&has_verified=1

Scum, this just makes my skin crawl, nauseating.

Yeah, thank goodness we can see ordinary Londoner's gather together to help clean up the city.

It is upsetting though, crazy, some serious social problems with this rioting phenomenon, 'rebels without a clue', psychotic, anti-social behaviours


Edit to add: missed the story on the attack on ambulance attendents, that's really sickening too-- "rebels without a clue'-riotors.  Bad morals, no morals.
 
Many have postulated what appropriate punishment would be. Two words come to mind: chain gang.

Have them clapped in irons and put to work cleaning up the mess. For those who would cry that their rights are somehow violated by this approach I reply that they're fed, clothed, and housed. Everything else is a luxury, not a right.
 
ModlrMike said:
Many have postulated what appropriate punishment would be. Two words come to mind: chain gang.

Have them clapped in irons and put to work cleaning up the mess. For those who would cry that their rights are somehow violated by this approach I reply that they're fed, clothed, and housed. Everything else is a luxury, not a right.

Dress them up in pink overalls and make them were ri.

diculous flower hats and then chain the morons up.  Why waste a perfectly good opportunity to really rub their noses in their insignificant, useless lives.

Lunch?  Bread & water would be a nice touch.

I can here the whinging and bleating from here.
 
Journeyman said:
Sounds like a job for Arizona's Sheriff Joe Arpaio    ;D
The difference being that bread & water may be an improvement from British cuisine....  ;D
 
Most insightful comment to date:  ;D

Libyan state television said Cameron was using Irish and Scottish “mercenaries” to tame the riots in English cities.

National Post
 
The parents should be held responsible for the actions of their kids and share the punishment/fines.
 
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