Looking for a 522 speaker

[Jarnhamar]

I'm trying to find a speaker box to use with a 522 radio in a CP.  Apparently they are about as easy to find as a unicorn.

Does anyone have one of these mythical devices that they could lend me (Sign a 638 card)?

 

[REDinstaller]

Do you have a NAU in your CP? If not, then you shouldn't hook a speaker up to the front panel of the radio. The speaker requires 24 VDC to run it. The front panel does supply 24 VDC, BUT it isn't of a sufficient amperage in order for it to be a permanent set up. And then you'll need a speaker cable too.

 

[MikeL]

When I was on tour we had the speakers running off the faceplates of our 522s in our Bison RRB for 3 months, and I'm pretty sure the guys who RIP'd us continued on with that.  The OMLT det at our SP/COP also ran a speaker off the faceplate off their 522, and it was running like that for a year or more.  We never encountered issues with running the speakers like that.

As for getting a speaker, have you tried contacting the Sigs units in your area or supporting ASU/ASG?  I believe your unit Ops&Training would be the ones responsible for requesting the kit from other units and getting your unit an entitlement for speakers, etc

 

[PiperDown]

A fine example of just because you can "rig something up" it doesn't make it right.

If you are going to (or did for 3 months) run a speaker off your faceplate you shouldn't worry about loading that silly crypto stuff either. 

 

[MikeL]

lol, so because we used a faceplate means we are stupid and lazy and won't load crypto, bit of a stretch.  And yes we did worry about crypto and actually loaded it and switched it when we had to 

Also, we originally were running the speakers off the CIs, but our NAU had issues at times and we were doing different tests/trouble shooting for that an another issue and this system worked without any problems so we ran with it.  And the OMLT Det they had no other option, it was either run a speaker off the faceplate of the manpack or have someone with a handset to their head all day and night.

 

[PuckChaser]

I can understand doing it properly in Canada, but if its your only option on Operation, I say go for it. Obviously its been working fairly well for the members who used it, as long as you keep the volume low. It draws more amps the higher you have the volume jacked, correct?

 

[PiperDown]

  And yes we did worry about crypto and actually loaded it and switched it when we had to 

Sure, you loaded it...But, by altering the vehicle layout in direct violation of the CLS directive regarding comms suite modifications  (do you think this was issued just to make your life difficult ? ) you may have compromised the integrity of the crytpo. (trust me on this one)

So, I ask again.  Why bother even loading crypto ? 


and, PuckChaser... you should know better.

 

[MikeL]

But, by altering the vehicle layout in direct violation of the CLS directive regarding comms suite modifications  (do you think this was issued just to make your life difficult ? )

I don't believe I've seen this directive, I'll search the DIN tomorrow for it.

you may have compromised the integrity of the crytpo. (trust me on this one)

Can you PM this info, or a source ?

So, I ask again.  Why bother even loading crypto ? 

So I can talk/listen to the other c/s on the net..  especially when we needed to pass sitreps, contact reps, etc

 

[REDinstaller]

As for getting a speaker, have you tried contacting the Sigs units in your area or supporting ASU/ASG?  I believe your unit Ops&Training would be the ones responsible for requesting the kit from other units and getting your unit an entitlement for speakers, etc

You can't build an entitlement for speakers. There is only enough for the Comms Suites that required it. And as I stated before, then cabling needs to be removed from the veh as well. CanLanGen 139/10 is the one you are looking for IIRC.

 

[PuckChaser]

Sure, you loaded it...But, by altering the vehicle layout in direct violation of the CLS directive regarding comms suite modifications  (do you think this was issued just to make your life difficult ? ) you may have compromised the integrity of the crytpo. (trust me on this one)

Do you get this upset with the technicians that installed the comm suite incorrectly right from refit? I've got a few vehicles you'll probably explode when you look at them, and they're sitting as a low priority to have all the cabling ripped out and redone.

 

[REDinstaller]

Then maybe you should contact your areas EFCC in order to have the problem corrected. Chances are that they are unaware of any issues with your platforms.

 

[PuckChaser]

Is that my job as the operator, or the technician that pointed it out to me in the first place? We're kept in the dark on exactly how the installations are supposed to be done because its a "tech job", but where do the responsibilities start and end for the correct operation? If it comes out of the shop I should be safe to assume it was done correctly. I guess in this case assuming makes an a__ out of u and me.  :nod:

 

[REDinstaller]

You as a user can report your issues to your Tech Shop along with the Tech that first identified it. They will then prioritize the work to be done, which might not be to your priorities which you will have to live with, then they will set about to make arrangements for EFCC Pet to have the work done. Again to the priorities that EFCC Pet has, not yours. Then they will send you back your platform that is reconfigured as to what the EAC/AC designates, not to the users preference. Assumptions are usually made when questions aren't asked out of embarrassment/ over confidence. We as Tech will not laugh at you if you have concerns over that installation state of your platform. We are there to help.


And your local shop doesn't have access to the latest installation pubs. The EFCC's are ensuring installation standards this way.