LPC leadership race - 2025

[PuckChaser]

the consumer portion they are both against

And if they leave the industry portion those costs get passed to consumers which is why our inflation is continuing through the roof. It's trash policy that is a bait and switch to pretend it helps the environment.

 

[MilEME09]

And if they leave the industry portion those costs get passed to consumers which is why our inflation is continuing through the roof. It's trash policy that is a bait and switch to pretend it helps the environment.

multiple studies have shown less than 5% of total inflation is a result of the carbon tax, adding an average of 33 cents for every $100 canadians spend on food for example. Will costs get passed on? yes but blaming the carbon tax for inflation is a cheap ploy, according to stats can CPI changed an average of 1.8% last year in canada, by comparison the US has no carbon tax and the CPI increased 3.2% on average. The canadian economy grew 2.4% while decreasing emissions 2.2%, the US economy reduced emissions 0.2% while growing 2.7%. There is very little correlation between the carbon tax and over all inflation and economic growth.

 

[Remius]

Speaking of inflation

Inflation ticks lower to 1.8% in December, thanks in part to GST tax break

Canada’s annual inflation rate fell to 1.8 per cent in December, thanks in large part to the federal government’s temporary tax break.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[PuckChaser]

There's a 0% chance that when you compound costs on every level of production that it only adds up to 5%. Then again, every Liberal is stoked about printing $40B CAD a year so pick your poison. Haven't heard Freeland or Carney distance themselves from that policy so with your math they are deliberately driving up costs. I'd love gas to be back to $1.25 a litre again, instead of almost $2 a litre if they keep jacking up carbon tax.

 

[Quirky]

Speaking of inflation

Inflation ticks lower to 1.8% in December, thanks in part to GST tax break

Canada’s annual inflation rate fell to 1.8 per cent in December, thanks in large part to the federal government’s temporary tax break.

www.ctvnews.ca

Less taxes reduces inflation? Shocker. I wonder what the carbon tax will do....

 

[suffolkowner]

And if they leave the industry portion those costs get passed to consumers which is why our inflation is continuing through the roof. It's trash policy that is a bait and switch to pretend it helps the environment.

how many carve outs are there for industry? For example cement production?

 

[PuckChaser]

how many carve outs are there for industry? For example cement production?

Votes in Quebec. Just like heating carve out in Maritimes.

 

[suffolkowner]

Speaking of inflation

Inflation ticks lower to 1.8% in December, thanks in part to GST tax break

Canada’s annual inflation rate fell to 1.8 per cent in December, thanks in large part to the federal government’s temporary tax break.

www.ctvnews.ca

and here i thought it was the economy sucked

 

[Colin Parkinson]

There's a 0% chance that when you compound costs on every level of production that it only adds up to 5%. Then again, every Liberal is stoked about printing $40B CAD a year so pick your poison. Haven't heard Freeland or Carney distance themselves from that policy so with your math they are deliberately driving up costs. I'd love gas to be back to $1.25 a litre again, instead of almost $2 a litre if they keep jacking up carbon tax.

Not to mention that the carbon tax also gives large companies a chance to boost what they charge, above what the escalating costs are and then blame it on the tax.

 

[MilEME09]

There's a 0% chance that when you compound costs on every level of production that it only adds up to 5%. Then again, every Liberal is stoked about printing $40B CAD a year so pick your poison. Haven't heard Freeland or Carney distance themselves from that policy so with your math they are deliberately driving up costs. I'd love gas to be back to $1.25 a litre again, instead of almost $2 a litre if they keep jacking up carbon tax.

gas prices love to stay high, and its always some excuse like maintenance, switching over from summer to winter gas etc that creates issues that drive up prices but they almost never come back down. We need more refining capability in Canada, so that if one facility goes down for a week or two of maintenance we dont see a 40 cent jump

 

[PuckChaser]

gas prices love to stay high, and its always some excuse like maintenance, switching over from summer to winter gas etc that creates issues that drive up prices but they almost never come back down. We need more refining capability in Canada, so that if one facility goes down for a week or two of maintenance we dont see a 40 cent jump

Then supporting LPC means accepting higher prices. They are more than willing to abdicate our energy security to the environmental lobby and Quebec. Energy East was going to be a godsend, maybe it's time to add a refinery in Ontario and bypass Quebec completely.

 

[Brad Sallows]

multiple studies have shown less than 5% of total inflation is a result of the carbon tax, adding an average of 33 cents for every $100 canadians spend on food for example. Will costs get passed on? yes but blaming the carbon tax for inflation is a cheap ploy, according to stats can CPI changed an average of 1.8% last year in canada, by comparison the US has no carbon tax and the CPI increased 3.2% on average. The canadian economy grew 2.4% while decreasing emissions 2.2%, the US economy reduced emissions 0.2% while growing 2.7%. There is very little correlation between the carbon tax and over all inflation and economic growth.

Multiple studies show that all causes of inflation are just parts of total inflation. They are each definitionally to blame for inflation, but not for 100% of inflation.

"This is just a little bit; we can ignore it" adds up.

Pretty much every day there is at least one news item that makes headlines or evening shows that amounts to "we need more money for X". A sure-fire way to increase public revenues is to increase the "velocity of money" by leaving it in peoples' hands and allowing them to choose how they spend it.

 

[Good2Golf]

Give it to Carney for sounding more like a PM

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….or….Canada gets its foreign interference house in order and actively does something to guard Canadians, and by proximal association Americans, from China’s deliberate actions to infiltrate and malevolently influence Canadian public and private institutions, and America eases off its threats.

I don’t believe for a second that trump raised the tariffs simply because it bought $150B of Canadian oil and $50B more potash, uranium and other resources and goods more than Canada bought from the America, and the cross-border issue.

If Canada were serious, its first step wouldn’t be placing its hands firmly on its hips and telling America that it will rue the day it applies such tariffs, and instead pass Foreign Agent Registry legislation. If Poilievre is as smart as I think he is, he will offer the new PM an X-days moratorium on disruptive legislating in order for Canada to approve the Foreign Registry legislation that Trudeau killed by proroguing Government.

The true test in the short-term will be how Carney et al address the information that Justice Hogue will release in her final report next week.

 

[MilEME09]

Then supporting LPC means accepting higher prices. They are more than willing to abdicate our energy security to the environmental lobby and Quebec. Energy East was going to be a godsend, maybe it's time to add a refinery in Ontario and bypass Quebec completely.

Energy east will never happen because of Quebec, Our options are to create an export terminal in hudsons bay, or we pipeline to ontario, cross lake ontario (or just the st. Lawrence) into the US and then upto into New Brunswick crossing 4 states. Unfortunately these are blue states which might be a hard sell.

 

[OldSolduer]

So here is a common thread amongst a lot of politicians these days:

"we have to find new ways of raising revenue"

Hey PM, Premiers and Mayors - there's no new way - there's only the old ways - screwing the taxpayers. There is only ONE taxpayer - us.

Further to that:

Gain some fiscal sanity. Stop spending OUR money on your pet projects and Special Interest Groups.

Foreign aid needs to be reviewed.

 

[OldSolduer]

Energy east will never happen because of Quebec, Our options are to create an export terminal in hudsons bay, or we pipeline to ontario, cross lake ontario (or just the st. Lawrence) into the US and then upto into New Brunswick crossing 4 states. Unfortunately these are blue states which might be a hard sell.

Money talks Mr. Whalen - money talks.

 

[Kirkhill]

Energy east will never happen because of Quebec, Our options are to create an export terminal in hudsons bay, or we pipeline to ontario, cross lake ontario (or just the st. Lawrence) into the US and then upto into New Brunswick crossing 4 states. Unfortunately these are blue states which might be a hard sell.

We could also export through BC....

 

[MilEME09]

We could also export through BC....

Funny you say that

First Nations leader reconsidering stance on Northern Gateway pipeline after Trump’s tariff threats | Globalnews.ca

Phillip is attending a gathering between B.C.'s provincial cabinet and the province's First Nations leaders in Vancouver on Tuesday.

globalnews.ca

 

[Kirkhill]

Funny you say that

First Nations leader reconsidering stance on Northern Gateway pipeline after Trump’s tariff threats | Globalnews.ca

Phillip is attending a gathering between B.C.'s provincial cabinet and the province's First Nations leaders in Vancouver on Tuesday.

globalnews.ca

D'ye reckon they have figured out where government money comes from?

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Further to that:

Gain some fiscal sanity. Stop spending OUR money on your pet projects and Special Interest Groups.

Foreign aid needs to be reviewed.

Speaking of which: MSN