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whiskey601 said:That was some time ago, and I don't recall anyting persuasive in the opinion that the territorial integrity of Quebec would be status quo. The borders of Quebec were arbitraily and artificially created by Royal proclamation, parts of which are of questionable validity in the current context. Personally, it seems to me the determining factor would be variations of the level of support within the voting ridings within succeeding territory, minus all first nation land claims. Basically, an ugly result.
I agree with what you're saying and I think that would be a large part of what would be negotiated.
paracowboy said:yes, but if a Province is seceding, would it care what the Supreme Court of the nation it's seceding from had to say? After all, the ridiculous and flagrantly biased decisions of our hypothetical Supreme Court are part and parcel of why that province is leaving its' former country.
I think they would care, since if they want to cite that decision as confirmation of their right to separation (which they need to do) then they have to abide by that decision. While it wasn't the affirmative response to a right to "unilateral secession" that they wanted, it's enough. They'd also stand a MUCH worse chance of being recognized internationally if they separated "illegally" when the only legal condition placed on them (after an affirmative vote by a majority) was to negotiate their secession.
Infanteer said:What is "Quebecois"? Certainly Quebec (the province) doesn't have any significant claim for seperation - as Whiskey said, it is artiface, a province created by the British Crown. Will all the Native groups of the PQ have the right to seperate from Quebec?
Is it language? If I learn to speak French, does this give me equal entitlement to a French homeland, despite not living in Quebec? What about the Anglo population of Quebec, which has only 150 years less heritage in the province.
Aren't we all Canadian? Can I not move to the province of Quebec when I feel like it (aren't mobility rights guranteed by the Charter?). So, if I am, as a Canadian, permitted to move to Quebec because it is part of my country, should I, and all other Canadians, not have a say in whether a group of people decides to take Crown land (meaning "all of ours") away from us? How long does it take to become a Quebecois? Does 6 months in St. Jean cut it?
You're preaching to the choir - I love Quebec and I have a great deal of respect and affection for French-Canadian culture but I don't believe they should have the right to secede. Unfortunately, the Supreme Court disagrees.