Missing Pre-req's

[Kynaeus]

Hey everyone,

I visited the recruiting office the other day and got some good literature about the ROTP and I'm asking about the education requirements for applying to RMC as an undergraduate. For the arts program, it says that I need English4U and grade 11 u/c math, both courses that I took in high school. However, he also gave me sheet with officer positions, their environment, entry plans, and the required edu and quals and on this sheet the pre-req's for Pilot or Air Combat Systems Officer (my desired occupations), you need any degree and it also tells me I need high school (or better) courses in math in science. In grade 11, I took math, bio, and chemistry but I only had arts courses the following and final year, history, law, etc.

Knowing this, I might be able to get into summer school at my high school but only for one class, if I remember right, so I can potentially take a grade 12 science (general) or advanced functions for math. Should I pursue one of these and only be missing the one pre-req or am I better off pursuing a Prep Year to be eligible to enter RMC?

PS: Quick joke, when I told the recruiter I wanted to do anything in the air, he made a comment that I wanted to be Tom Cruise flying F-18's to which I responded, "Tom Cruise actually flew F-14 Tomcats in Top Gun, if that's what you're talking about." Recruiter: "Ahh they're just different names for the same plane."  :

 

[aesop081]

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Do you have any idea how many people like you recruiters see every day ?

I'm sure he has better things to do ( like answer your questions) than care what airplane is what.......

 

[Kat Stevens]

Hey everyone,

I visited the recruiting office the other day and got some good literature about the ROTP and I'm asking about the education requirements for applying to RMC as an undergraduate. For the arts program, it says that I need English4U and grade 11 u/c math, both courses that I took in high school. However, he also gave me sheet with officer positions, their environment, entry plans, and the required edu and quals and on this sheet the pre-req's for Pilot or Air Combat Systems Officer (my desired occupations), you need any degree and it also tells me I need high school (or better) courses in math in science. In grade 11, I took math, bio, and chemistry but I only had arts courses the following and final year, history, law, etc.

Knowing this, I might be able to get into summer school at my high school but only for one class, if I remember right, so I can potentially take a grade 12 science (general) or advanced functions for math. Should I pursue one of these and only be missing the one pre-req or am I better off pursuing a Prep Year to be eligible to enter RMC?

PS: Quick joke, when I told the recruiter I wanted to do anything in the air, he made a comment that I wanted to be Tom Cruise flying F-18's to which I responded, "Tom Cruise actually flew F-14 Tomcats in Top Gun, if that's what you're talking about." Recruiter: "Ahh they're just different names for the same plane."  :

It was a trick.  He now knows you're smart arse know it  all, and are well suited for jets.  Smaaaart, no?

 

[2010newbie]

Hey everyone,

I visited the recruiting office the other day and got some good literature about the ROTP and I'm asking about the education requirements for applying to RMC as an undergraduate. For the arts program, it says that I need English4U and grade 11 u/c math, both courses that I took in high school. However, he also gave me sheet with officer positions, their environment, entry plans, and the required edu and quals and on this sheet the pre-req's for Pilot or Air Combat Systems Officer (my desired occupations), you need any degree and it also tells me I need high school (or better) courses in math in science. In grade 11, I took math, bio, and chemistry but I only had arts courses the following and final year, history, law, etc.

Knowing this, I might be able to get into summer school at my high school but only for one class, if I remember right, so I can potentially take a grade 12 science (general) or advanced functions for math. Should I pursue one of these and only be missing the one pre-req or am I better off pursuing a Prep Year to be eligible to enter RMC?

If the Recruiter said you were missing pre-req's then get the pre-req's. Another semester of highschool, summer school, night school, whatever. Trades in the Forces are extremely competitive and you need to ensure you have the best possible qualifications for the position. I did not complete high school and years later I went back and got my GED so I could get into University to obtain the required pre-requisites. After completing a year part-time, I applied ROTP for Pilot and was accepted. If I tried without the pre-req's I'm sure I would not have been successful.

 

[gcclarke]

I'm a bit confused. You say the sheet said that you need "high school or better" math and science. And you also state that you took math and science in grade 11. Having taken some math and science in high school, it would seem to me that you may very well have already covered that requirement.

In either case, call the recruiting centre and ask them oh so nicely to clarify for you. Seems like the best way to go.

 

[Otis]

:threat:

Nah ... OP knows the difference between an F-14 Tomcat and an F-18 ... he doesn't need our help at the RC ... he'll figure it all out for himself.

Of course, you didn't mention ... was that Recruiter Air Force? Navy? Army? Reg Force or Reserve?

Dude may not know planes, but I bet he knows something about something ...

OK ... I've calmed down from defending Recruiters ... now to actually answer the dumb damn darn question.

There are different requirements for different things ... RMC has pre-requisites to get into their courses, the CF has pre-requisites to get a certain job ... those do not nessesarily match (i.e. what are the pre-requisites for a programmers course at Durham College vs getting a job at MIT?)

You will need to get a degree one way or the other ... the pre-requisite for ANY officer position. The Math and Science are recommended in order to predict that you will be successful in the trade (i.e. try learning to fly a CF18 with a BA in History and having NEVER taken math or science ... good luck with that)

Hope this helps ... now go make fun of your Recruiter to his face, I'm sure it'll help your application get put through faster ...

 

[gcclarke]

I too don't know the difference between either an F-14 and an F-18, nor do I know what the heck a M4A1, and if it turns out to be a type of tank, I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and a Leopard C2 (Or any type of Leopard for that matter). Clearly this makes me the most incompetent Naval Officer in the CF.

:

The difference between a BLT and a Clubhouse, to someone who neither eats nor prepares sandwiches is rather irrelevant.

 

[aesop081]

but I think it would've been akin to comparing an M4A1 to a Leopard C2, or a BLT to a clubhouse. Both are sandviches but are totally different in consumption.

Let it go already, before you make yourself out to be an ever bigger ass......

just a light tease I thought would brighten your day.

Fail.

 

[McD]

Might be of your best interest to find out what wont be "should be enough". No sarcasm just thinking in my head what else can be done.... :2c: Not meaning or implying to undermind anyone

 

[SupersonicMax]

(i.e. try learning to fly a CF18 with a BA in History and having NEVER taken math or science ... good luck with that)

This is exactly where recruiters are out of their lane sometimes and feed applicants bovine excrements.

It is very possible to fly a CF-18 with a BA History degree. Heck, I know a few older Hornet drivers with a High School diploma.  That's it.  It has been done and will be done in the future.  Flying is NOT about math or science. 

 

[chrisf]

Flying is NOT about math or science.

Thank god you don't build them, you only fly them

 

[SupersonicMax]

Thank god you don't build them, you only fly them

FYI I have a mechanical engineering degree and could well be in a position where I design them.

Again, the act of flying an aircraft has 0 to do with math.

 

[chrisf]

FYI I have a mechanical engineering degree and could well be in a position where I design them.

Again, the act of flying an aircraft has 0 to do with math.

No offense intended if you took it that way, it was meant to be a humorous comment. I understood quite well your intent.