MOOs to Restore a Unit from the Supplementary Order of Battle

[Gorgo]

Quick question:  How exactly is an MOO that is issued to restore a unit from the Supplementary Order of Battle actually worded?  Does anyone know?

Thanks!

 

[dapaterson]

Short answer:  It depends.


Certain units from the SOBN have already been amalgamated with current units, so bringing them back would require amending the perpetuating unit's MOO as well.


Generally, though, a MOO is quite simple:  MND revokes all prior MOOs (if any); MND creates Unit X as a unit of a component (Reg/Res/Special Force) of the CF; and allocates the unit to a formation.

 

[Gorgo]

And the Canadian Forces Organisational Order that comes with this?

(Sorry!  Should've asked this with the original question!)  :-[

 

[dapaterson]

Once a MOO is done VCDS staff draft a CFOO.  It's pretty much automatic, and follows essentially a boilerplate format.

O&E staff at the Army HQ are very familiar with the processes to amend MOOs and CFOOs, and will give guidance should it be necessary.

 

[bick]

Which unit are you looking to have restored?

 

[Gorgo]

For a fan fiction story I'm in the midst of rewriting right now, I wish to do the following to two units:

1) Restore the 19th Alberta Dragoons and make them part of 41 CBG, with RHQ in Edmonton.  This will require their being formally separated from the South Alberta Light Horse (the two units were administratively amalgamated in 2006); and

2) Restore the 2nd/10th Dragoons and make them part of 31 CBG, with RHQ in Niagara Falls.  This will require their being formally re-rolled from the Royal Canadian Artillery (as they were the 57th Regiment RCA from 1946-70 before going on the SOOB) to the Royal Canadian Armoured Corps, plus having any administrative links with the 56th Field Regiment RCA severed (as 10th Field Battery RCA in Saint Catharines was part of the 57th Regiment before it was put onto the SOOB, then switched to the 56th Regiment).

Again, this is just for a fan fiction story to be posted on Fanfiction.net, so a general breakdown of the applicable CFOOs and MOOs like what DAPatterson gave in his first reply is all I really need.  And I will credit both of you for this when I get this posted.

Thanks again.  :nod:

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Geez, not the 19th Alberta Dragoons again :facepalm:

Just kidding. Long story. 8)

 

[Gorgo]

Geez, not the 19th Alberta Dragoons again :facepalm:

Just kidding. Long story. 8)

LOL!  Sorry, man.  Didn't mean to bring up bad memories for you. 

 

[Infanteer]

Geez, not the 19th Alberta Dragoons again :facepalm:

Just kidding. Long story. 8)

That's exactly what I said!  That poor Regiment is forever affiliated with that goof-ball....

 

[Scott]

That's exactly what I said!  That poor Regiment is forever affiliated with that goof-ball....

Me three. I thought for sure that I was going to see a familiar email when I checked out his profile.

Fred, there is a fan club for you - thy name is Dennis Ruhl

 

[FJAG]

Here's a sample CFOO.

Let me know if you can open it OK.

It should do the job for you if you just modify the titles and UICs. I don't think you need to show the change of status. I would expect for the purposes of your novel an "official" document that forms the status that you want should be enough.

Cheers

 

[Gorgo]

Here's a sample CFOO.

Let me know if you can open it OK.

It should do the job for you if you just modify the titles and UICs. I don't think you need to show the change of status. I would expect for the purposes of your novel an "official" document that forms the status that you want should be enough.

Cheers

Awesome.  And I WAS able to open it!  Thank you so much, FJAG!

And would you prefer to have me use your net name or real name in the credits?

 

[Gorgo]

Quick question:  What does DSPC mean?  I'm not familiar with this department in NDHQ.

 

[dapaterson]

DSPC no longer exists.  DND/CF O&E is now handled under the Chief of Programme, or C PROG.


See: http://www.vcds.forces.gc.ca/sites/page-eng.asp?page=5607

 

[Gorgo]

Many thanks.  I'm writing up the scene where the 2nd/10th receive their CFOO right now.

 

[daftandbarmy]

For a fan fiction story I'm in the midst of rewriting right now, I wish to do the following to two units:

1) Restore the 19th Alberta Dragoons and make them part of 41 CBG, with RHQ in Edmonton.  This will require their being formally separated from the South Alberta Light Horse (the two units were administratively amalgamated in 2006); and

2) Restore the 2nd/10th Dragoons and make them part of 31 CBG, with RHQ in Niagara Falls.  This will require their being formally re-rolled from the Royal Canadian Artillery (as they were the 57th Regiment RCA from 1946-70 before going on the SOOB) to the Royal Canadian Armoured Corps, plus having any administrative links with the 56th Field Regiment RCA severed (as 10th Field Battery RCA in Saint Catharines was part of the 57th Regiment before it was put onto the SOOB, then switched to the 56th Regiment).

Again, this is just for a fan fiction story to be posted on Fanfiction.net, so a general breakdown of the applicable CFOOs and MOOs like what DAPatterson gave in his first reply is all I really need.  And I will credit both of you for this when I get this posted.

Thanks again.  :nod:

If you want to write in some really fictitious stuff you have my permission to include me in the story as the 41 CBG Commander.  ;D

 

[Journeyman]

Oh, it's a comedy.  ;D

 

[daftandbarmy]

Oh, it's a comedy.  ;D

More like a Tragi-comndy!

 

[Infanteer]

Many thanks.  I'm writing up the scene where the 2nd/10th receive their CFOO right now.

Sorry mate, but that doesn't sound very exciting.  I can write a chapter on administering a remedial measure for you if you want to spice things up.

 

[Danjanou]

More like a Tragi-comndy!

So Dennis is the CO of the 19th?