MP's Want To Take Hizbollah Off Terror List

[I_am_John_Galt]

On the other hand, our British and Australian allies only consider the "foreign division" of Hezbollah to be a terrorist organization - seeing their social and political wing as a legitimate movement.  Are they out to lunch?

Yes.

 

[aluc]

No one says a thing about horrific Arab racism and anti-Semitism that brazenly offer the world pictures of our secretary of State as a primate and constant hate speech of Jews as apes and pigs. And here at home, a celebrity actor, the staff of a failed congresswoman in Georgia, and a crazed Muslim with a gun in Seattle all shout about the evils of the “Jews” — a good cross-section of just how insidious is the growing anti-Semitism.

I don't think this problem has ever been addressed. The media has lost me with this whole Lebanon crisis. I can no longer stomach listening to news casts. All I hear and see is how much Lebanon is suffering, and how vicious Israel is. Man, if I never found this site, I would never be able to see the forest for the trees! (actually, I probably would....but at least I have a place to discuss/ read intelligent postings from real people who haven't been blinded by popular opinion and left wing media groups.) 

It was interesting to hear how displeased the UN and the rest of the world was when Israel sent a commando raid into Lebanon to stifle the efforts of Hezbollah when they were trying to re arm. It appears that the international community turns a blind eye to what Syria , Lebanon, and the rest of 'em are doing over there.  The UN just keep towing the party line of how "we should all be friends , sit down over tea and talk things over like civilised people".....you know what though...it's kind of hard to have civilised discussion , when civility is lacking on one of the parties. Negotiations and pow wows (love ins....whatever) only serve to buy terrorists time to re arm and re equip their hordes.

I do like how the UN is thinking of sending in "peacekeepers" that are pro terrorist/ Muslim to sit on the border. Now that's using yer head.....what a useless organisation!

As for these MPs (as well as their "respective" parties), they should be working together with the government of the day in order to defeat our enemies ( is enemy too harsh a word now a days?).  However, someone on this thread said it correctly..... they're whoring themselves out for votes (a fairly popular left wing tactic, as it would seem).

 

[cameron]

Those two MP's have got to be joking

 

[1feral1]

Just remember, these LIberal clowns aren't fit to wipe our bums.

Meanwhile CF troops fight against this greater evil which Hezbollah is a part of.

These crackpot politicians should hang their heads in shame.

They would not get my vote!


Wes

 

[Infanteer]

Yes.

Right now, that gets about as much weight as a catagorical "no".

There are two issues at stake here.

1)  The reason the MP's wish to do this.  I remain, like many of the posters here, suspect and feel it something akin to taking a poke at the Conservatives.  One MP gave engagement in a normative political process as a method to "de-radicalizing" Hizbollah.  The idea has merit, but we did try it with Hamas and they ended up starting this whole fracas oh so long ago.  It's a hard to do with an enemy who's outlook takes an olive-branch from the West as a sign of weakness....

2)  Have we really formulated the right policy with Hezbollah as a whole by labelling it a terrorist organization?  I can't automatically buy the "yes" argument when Britain and Australia, two very close allies with a history of sound foreign policy (Australia is the country that elected John Howard in perpetuity, after all...) have chosen to approach the organization in a different manner.  I think the matter is worth analysis....

 

[Brad Sallows]

There was a quotation attributed to Nash in one of the articles I read this morning - which has since disappeared down the "Edit" hole - along the lines of (and I paraphrase broadly) "It didn't prevent another war; labelling Hezbollah terrorist is a red herring".  To those who understand what a "red herring" is, the quotation is priceless.  I must wonder if the quotation was removed so as to not embarrass she who uttered it.

 

[ab9321]

Hmmmm,

Where are my old posts to this thread? ;D

 

[Infanteer]

Hmmmm,

Where are my old posts to this thread? ;D

If you are going to contribute, do so - if not, quit spamming this thread.

That should give you an idea as to where your posts went....

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Hmmmm,

Where are my old posts to this thread? ;D

They've been deleted for taking the thread off course. Go read the guidelines.

 

[ab9321]

Man,

You guys should work for Hezbollah.  Use some nuts (if you have them), and try to put up a decent arguement to the point at least.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Man,

You guys should work for Hezbollah.  Use some nuts (if you have them), and try to put up a decent arguement to the point at least.

Can't take a hint can ya. Later troll.

 

[Infanteer]

Man,

You guys should work for Hezbollah.  Use some nuts (if you have them), and try to put up a decent arguement to the point at least.

Hey, look; the green-light.  Bye-bye.

Anyways, back to your regularly scheduled programming....

 

[I_am_John_Galt]

Right now, that gets about as much weight as a catagorical "no".

2)  Have we really formulated the right policy with Hezbollah as a whole by labelling it a terrorist organization?  I can't automatically buy the "yes" argument when Britain and Australia, two very close allies with a history of sound foreign policy (Australia is the country that elected John Howard in perpetuity, after all...) have chosen to approach the organization in a different manner.  I think the matter is worth analysis....

Pretending that the Political "wing" of Hizbollah is anything more than window dressing for what is essentially a genocidal terrorist organization will only serve to prolong the suffering they cause.  Accepting the legitimacy of the Political side is tantamount to accepting the genocidal aims to which they aspire.  I don't buy the comparisons with the PIRA/Sinn Fein, as the Irish at least had a semi-legitimate pretext for their existence.

 

[big bad john]

They are "dressing up" the political side well, I'll give them that.  They have an excellent welfare system, they don't do too badly on the education front either.  But that does not change the fact that their basic reason for being is that of supporting the military wing.  They are a terrorist organisation.

 

[GAP]

They are "dressing up" the political side well, I'll give them that.  They have an excellent welfare system, they don't do too badly on the education front either.  But that does not change the fact that their basic reason for being is that of supporting the military wing.  They are a terrorist organisation.

Not sure where I saw the article, but yes they do supply welfare, employment, and schooling, all with reinforcing their agenda and philosophy.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Not sure where I saw the article, but yes they do supply welfare, employment, and schooling, all with reinforcing their agenda and philosophy.

Gotta indoctrinate those bombers early

 

[tomahawk6]

Those dollars they are passing around probably are some very good knockoffs made in Tehran.

 

[GAP]

Wouldn't it frost them if the rumour got started that the money they are handing out is counterfeit? People are people, and those on the receiving end wouldn't really care, unless it suddenly affected them.

 

[Kirkhill]

Those dollars they are passing around probably are some very good knockoffs made in Tehran.

I noticed that too T6.  Hezbollah issuing nice, crisp, never-been-used Yankee 100-dollar bills to pay to tidy up the mess.  The US Treasury  foots the bill again - and at no cost to Hezbollah.

Time for you lot to change the greenback.

 

[TCBF]

"Not sure where I saw the article, but yes they do supply welfare, employment, and schooling, all with reinforcing their agenda and philosophy."

- Simply an "Economy of Force" operation by a Military Government in an Occupied Area.  The Germans did it.  We did it too.  Now the Hezzies do it, and all of the Travellers see nothing but Mother Theresa re-incarnates.