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M@RK

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  Well everyone I wrote my aptitude test today and I didn't score well enough to become a Naval Communicator.  This was my second time writing it.  I guess there is no third without me taking some math courses.  I'm a little confused because some of the jobs they offered I would think would require a lot of math.  They said I was close though.  I have been out of school and working for ten years now in a supervisor position.  I was hoping that might have some sway if I was close.  I wish they didn't gage your ability on a job with math.  Oh well back to the drawing board I guess.  I hope to someday be in the military with all of you all.  I just wanted to thank-you again for all of your advice and info.
All the best.

Mark
 
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M@RK said:
  I'm a little confused because some of the jobs they offered I would think would require a lot of math.

Since you likely have little idea about other trades in any sort of detail you have to be careful about what you "think" other trades require.


I wish they didn't gage your ability on a job with math.

I think you are missing the objective of the CFAT. If you had failed any other portion of the test, (spacial ability for example), i'm sure you would be on here saying "i wish they didnt gage your ability on a job based on_________". You didnt pass ALL of the requirements the CF has set, plain and simple.

My best advice is for you to go take a math course and try the test again. This was your second time around so you should have known better than most what you were getting into. That you have been out of school for 10 years is not a valid excuse.

Take a math course and good luck. Hope you make it next time around. I realy do.
 

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If being a Naval Communicator is a true dream of yours then its up to you to grab the bull by its horns and master it. Swallow your pride and take those math courses or do research into other occupations in the CF, you will be surprised what is out there. If you don't you will always beat yourself up over it and always wonder "What if". If you really want this you would not give in so easily.
 

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That's too bad, because you don't really use any complicated math in your day to day job as a 00299, but the CFAT is the standard. 

What I don't like is this quitting attitude!  You get your ass to a chapters, hit the math section, and you start working the math.  There are plenty of books, websites and geeks out there that can provide you with what you need to join the Navy.

I had to do the same thing when I switched the a new trade.  Sometimes you have to work your ass off for the things you want.

Good Luck

 

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Hello again everyone!!

CDN Aviator!!  Thanks for the advice.  Your right if I did fail another part I would probably be picking at that.  Its also true most of the trades they offered me I'm not familiar with.  I'm looking into the math courses now and I'm going to try again.

Ex-Dragoon!!  Thanks for the advice!!  I'm looking into the math courses now and I'm also looking at some of the jobs they did offer me.  I'm learning about them and I'm going to see if anything jumps out.  The bull knocked me off today but I'm already up and ready to get back on!!

Dolphin_Hunter!!  No quitting here!!  Thanks for writing back.  I liked that.  Get your ass to Chapters!!  That is good advice I'm going to check out there math books and I'm looking at math coursed now.  Its frustrating doing all of this math for a job that sounds like it has very little but they set the bar on it so I'm going to work harder.  I'm off to Chapters:)

Thanks again everyone!!

Mark

P.S.  They offered me Bosn which looks kinda neat.  Any thoughts on that??
 
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That was my first choice until they told me there was no other positions to fill up for F/Y.
 

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Thoughts ref the BOSN offer.

If I am craving a double cheddar mushroom burger, and I mean craving, its all I have been thinking about.  When I get to the store I find out I am 50 cents short, but they do offer me the Baconator instead.

What to do?  Do I take the Baconator? Knowing full well that it will satisfy my hunger, but do nothing for the craving.  I will always be thinking of the double cheddar mushroom burger, I would always be looking at those who are eating that burger and wonder "what does it taste like?" or "Did I make the right choice?"

So my choice would be obvious, I would go earn that extra 50 cents so I can get what I want.


Take the extra time to bone up and try again.
 
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Very nice Dolphin  ;D
That's why I jumped on NavComm when they offered it. It was my second choice but was becoming my first and I was even thinking of calling to change it the morning they called me to offer it.
Faith was on my side  :)
 

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Dolphin_Hunter!!

That was perfect and so true.  If I took the Bosn job I would always see the Nav Comms and think about it.  I would see the flags waving and wish I was the one that put them up there.  I'm going to go back to the recruitment centre to find exactly what kind of math courses I need to write the aptitude test again.   

Azizti!!

Congrats on getting Nav Comm!!  All the best on your course and in your career.  Hopefully we get to work together someday!!  Goodluck!!

A friend of mine recently came back from a six month tour around the Mediterranean and off of Africa.  I was reading in the paper that his ship helped safe guard the passage of enough food to feed thousands of people.  Pretty cool stuff.  I can't wait to be apart of it.

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Azizti

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Thanks a lot for the good wishes M@rk!
Goodluck with your math for the CFAT.
Indeed would be cool if we ever get to work together!

 

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  Hey everyone!! 

  Sorry to go off topic for this thread but you guys/gals have been so helpfull I thought I would ask on here.
Whats jobs get Specialist 1 pay and whats jobs get Specialist 2 pay?  Just curious.  I tried to find it on here but I couldn't find a real list of what jobs get what. 

  Update on me.  Ive been told its near impossible to write the aptitude test for a third time.  I guess they need approval from Ottawa and the guy I was talking to had never seen it happen.  I'm looking at Bosn now which I'm really starting to like with all of the info I'm finding on it.  Although they did tell me the position is full for the year I'm going to try for it next year for sure.  Maybe the reserves in the meantime.  Any thoughts on Bosn?? 

  Thanks again.

  Mark

 
 

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M@RK said:
  Hey everyone!! 

  Sorry to go off topic for this thread but you guys/gals have been so helpfull I thought I would ask on here.
Whats jobs get Specialist 1 pay and whats jobs get Specialist 2 pay?  Just curious.  I tried to find it on here but I couldn't find a real list of what jobs get what. 

Here's a link to all trades, and whether they belong to Standard, Spec 1, or Spec 2 trade groups - http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dgcb-dgras/ps/je-ee/faq/otguao-mjgpmga-eng.asp

  Update on me.  Ive been told its near impossible to write the aptitude test for a third time.  I guess they need approval from Ottawa and the guy I was talking to had never seen it happen.  I'm looking at Bosn now which I'm really starting to like with all of the info I'm finding on it.  Although they did tell me the position is full for the year I'm going to try for it next year for sure.  Maybe the reserves in the meantime.  Any thoughts on Bosn?? 

Hope you like the outdoors.  They spend a lot of time on the upper decks in all sorts of nasty weather.
 

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I'd also hope that you like sailing. One of the prime complaints that I've heard from the Bo's'ns that I knew was that they spent more time at sea, having fewer shore positions than most of the other trades. I, unfortunately don't know if the actual statistics back up those claims, but I frankly wouldn't be surprised if they're right.

That having been said, most of them do seem to enjoy their job. It is demanding, as they are the ones supervising many of the most dangerous evolutions performed in the Navy, such as a replenishment at sea, when a ship is receiving fuel or supplies from a supply ship. To excel in this field requires someone with a good head on thier shoulders, able to focus on many things at once, as well as an ability to react quickly, and correctly, in a crisis. While there are many so-called hard sea trades, this is the hardest (purest?) of them all.

Either way, I'm glad to hear that this setback with the CFAT isn't derailing your plans to serve. Good luck!
 

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  Hey!!

  Occam-  Thank-you for that link.  It was very interesting to see.  I do like to be outdoors when its warm.  Not so much when its cold ha ha but just like winter I guess its something I can deal with.  Thanks for the info again!! 

  gcclarke-  Thank-you also for the great info.  Ive heard that about Bosn also.  Alot of time and sea, hard grunt work, bottom of the barrel, hard to move up and so on.  Having heard that I still think I'm going to go for it.  I like a challenge and I'm willing to work hard and go as far as I can go.  I want a 25 year career in the Navy.  Thanks again for all of the info. 

  Another update.  I think the recruitment centre is getting to know me pretty well ha ha.  Ive been over alot making sure there is no other way to get in as a Nav Comm where I didn't make the grade on the CFAT.  I guess writing it a third time is near impossible.  I was also told there looking to hire alot of people for that position.  (She said it was a red trade)  I was close on the test they said so I asked if there is anything they can do I'm looking for a 25 year career and I will be one of the best employees they've ever seen.  I'd hate to miss it by a point.  As much as I want it though it wouldn't be fair for the people that passed the CFAT though.  So no such luck.  I moved on to my Bosn option.  Bosn is full for the year:(  I'm not having any luck ha ha.  I tried for the reserve in the meantime.  Also full for Bosn.  Next January I will be the first person in 2010 to walk in that recruitment centre get an application and pass it in.  I can't wait.  Maybe I will travel some in the meantime.  Its hard to see the ships everyday in the harbour but I know the time will come when I get to be on one.  Sorry for the ramble.  It may help some people in the same situation or just make for a good read.  Thanks everyone.

  Cheers

  Mark 
 
 

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Hey,

I am sure I want a career in the military, but I am having a real hard time deciding which one. I have an interest in communications and enjoy that type of work. So I am leaning towards NavComm.. I have heard that there is some animosity towards them however. Is there any truth to this? Are they a somewhat less liked trade by other trades?

What are the chances of getting advanced training such as Boarding Party/Ships Diver as a NavComm?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Radar said:
So I am leaning towards NavComm.. I have heard that there is some animosity towards them however. Is there any truth to this? Are they a somewhat less liked trade by other trades?

Does it matter?  I didn't feel any animosity towards me from any other trades while I was sailing as a communicator, but then again I probably didn't notice because I didn't care.  My pay went in every two weeks, regardless how others viewed my trade selection.

Radar said:
What are the chances of getting advanced training such as Boarding Party/Ships Diver as a NavComm?

Just as good as any other trade.
 

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Radar pay attention, there was already a thread going regarding NAVCOMM questions.

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Looking for a full time Nav Comm to speak with about the job and what it is like. If you could please pm me I would appreciate it.

Thank you for your time. :salute:
 

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Hello to all , I am posting looking for important information on Nav Com .I have applied , done my Cfat , done my medical, had my interview .In my interview i had cut down and pin pointed to exactly what i want to do .Unfortunately its in 2 different elements .Sig ops in the army and the other is Nav com. I have been reading and trying to gather as much information on both occupations to help me decide what is the better career for me. They both have pro's and con's and i think i can handle all of them on both sides. I am really leaning towards navy since i like the traveling , able to plant my family in either 2 places .

Can anyone help me and explain what happens when deployed ? im not scared of long trips. Im just curious what really happens in such small space for a long period of time .Do people go crazy ? what kind of things can you do in your off time on a ship ? are you able to communicate to family from there ? Is there any other special training i can take while appointed to a ship ?

Can anyone tell me about Nav com ? any information at this point will be helpful

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There are numerous discussions on the NAVCOMM trade, off time, sailing and deployments in the Navy. Please use the search function.Its there for a reason.

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