Naval Deployment questions

[Oldgateboatdriver]

In my defense, I did not specify where, when or how the Cox'n would come down hard on the poor chatty OOW (nor any of the other people I mentioned).

Closed door in the Cox'n's office is not a place I would want to be as a junior officer.

 

[Lumber]

@Halifax Tar @Oldgateboatdriver oh yea I would never expect a Coxn to do that. I've never had a Coxn come up to bridge except to talk to the CO, nor do I think any of them would do that.

I did have an experience similar to this once. We were doing a MOBEX so I went to the boat deck (diver), and when it was clear I wasn't needed I started up the ladder. Suddenly I hear the Coxn's raspy French voice from the boat deck, "Sir, come here please."..."Yes, Coxn?"..."Sir, you need a haircut" (with a scowling unapproving look). In my head I rolled my eyes said "Now is not the fucking time Coxn!!", but what I actually said was, of course, "Yes, Coxn" then quickly turned around and head back up the ladder.

 

[NavyShooter]

26 years on ships in the Navy, and the Cox'n was always a welcome guest on the bridge, but never can I recall any of them exerting any form of command or directional influence while there (not directly anyhow.)

The CO owns his bridge (and his/her ship.) The OOW is granted Charge of the ship and controls the ship based on the CO's written orders during their watch (4 hrs) on the bridge. If something happens outside of the parameters of the OOW's written instructions, he contacts the CO at any time (day/night) for clarity and direction.

When not on the bridge, that NWO is involved in training, learning, leading.

If the NWO is involved in the OPS world rather than the bridge watchkeeping roles, then they have a more specialized war-fighting role - ASW Controller, Surface Weapons Controller, Ops Room Officer, etc. There is still a hierarchy in the OPS room, and they report up to the OOW on the bridge because that's who has Charge of the ship.

There are some good explanations up-thread from this which give more detail I think though.

NS

 

[CadNav]

Well this be sounding like a job I'll like, or I hope anyways. Is there anything I can read that's good information before I go onto QL3? This seems like a job where the more stuff you know, the better. I'm just kind of fearful because what if I do something wrong and something bad happens? But I assume that I think this because the longest course I take is 6 weeks QL3, and I know NWO trades training takes a long time, so I think you'll know what's going on. I also assume (and hope) that the people who do NWO training are good, and not get people who are put into training as punishment, but I don't really know.

All I know there is a book called COLREG and you have to know it

 

[Halifax Tar]

Well this be sounding like a job I'll like, or I hope anyways. Is there anything I can read that's good information before I go onto QL3? This seems like a job where the more stuff you know, the better. I'm just kind of fearful because what if I do something wrong and something bad happens? But I assume that I think this because the longest course I take is 6 weeks QL3, and I know NWO trades training takes a long time, so I think you'll know what's going on. I also assume (and hope) that the people who do NWO training are good, and not get people who are put into training as punishment, but I don't really know.

All I know there is a book called COLREG and you have to know it

Watch Master and Commander endlessly. And Read nothing but the Horatio Hornblower series.

And remember that as an NWO your are now in the linage of Nelson. Everything in your life should be framed around one question WWND ? What Would Nelson do ?

 

[CadNav]

Watch Master and Commander endlessly. And Read nothing but the Horatio Hornblower series.

And remember that as an NWO your are no in the linage of Nelson. Everything in your life should be framed around one question WWND ? What Would Nelson do ?

Well, I probably should, because the only naval movie I watched is Das Boot...

 

[dapaterson]

Well, I probably should, because the only naval movie I watched is Das Boot...

Good! The RCN is growing its submarine fleet!

 

[CadNav]

Watch Master and Commander endlessly. And Read nothing but the Horatio Hornblower series.

And remember that as an NWO your are no in the linage of Nelson. Everything in your life should be framed around one question WWND ? What Would Nelson do ?

Also, I don't know about this one, because my fiancé would not be happy if I cheat on her...

 

[Halifax Tar]

Also, I don't know about this one, because my fiancé would not be happy if I cheat on her...

 

[Lumber]

Well this be sounding like a job I'll like, or I hope anyways. Is there anything I can read that's good information before I go onto QL3? This seems like a job where the more stuff you know, the better. I'm just kind of fearful because what if I do something wrong and something bad happens? But I assume that I think this because the longest course I take is 6 weeks QL3, and I know NWO trades training takes a long time, so I think you'll know what's going on. I also assume (and hope) that the people who do NWO training are good, and not get people who are put into training as punishment, but I don't really know.

All I know there is a book called COLREG and you have to know it

Officer courses aren't referred to be "QL#". In fact neither are NCM courses anymore, they are referred to as "RQ" course (Rank Qualification, ie RQ-S1-SonarOP). You'll firs bring NETPO, followes by NWO Basic (the former NWO 2 and NWO 3 courses). To prepare for this, you absolutely can read the COLREGS. You can get a copy from just about anywhere, but I recommend the electronic "Canadian version" from the Department of Justice website. I recommend skipping reading the "Canadian Modifications" for now (they are long and convoluted) and just read the international regulations contained therein. Also, work on your math. You do a lot of math as a jr NWO. Not complicated math, just basic arithmetic, but you have to be able to do it fast and in your head (ie you need to know quickly what the "speed required" is if your destination is 45 miles away and you have 3 hrs to get there, or you may need to quickly know that if a point of land is 10 miles away and the point of land is 15 degrees on your bow that you will pass it by approximately 2.5 miles).