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Navy plans to deploy unmanned aircraft on frigates

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Navy plans to deploy unmanned aircraft on frigates

By MURRAY BREWSTER
   




The navy's decision to jump on the UAV bandwagon could prove to be good news for Quebec-based Bombardier, which has developed a rotary-wing drone, the CL-327, known as the Guardian. (CP handout photo/ Bombardier)

MONTREAL (CP) - The Canadian navy could soon be looking for a few good drones.

National Defence plans to conduct a study next year on how the country's frigates can safely launch and recover unmanned aerial vehicles - UAVs - at sea, and is asking for private companies with expertise to step forward. "Currently, sensors are installed on the ships' masts to position them as high as possible to aid early detection of threats," said a background document accompanying the tender.

"If sensor height is a key factor to early detection, then it would be logical to locate the sensors on aerial platforms."

The army and air force have been using drones, which are controlled by technicians on the ground, for the last five years.

An entire flight of unmanned aircraft -French-made Sperwers - has been doing yeoman's service in Afghanistan since 2003 scouting the vast desert wastelands and rugged mountain passes for threats to troops on the ground. The army also employs the Skylark, a mini-UAV that resembles a model aircraft.

The tender represents the navy's first foray into the rapidly developing high-tech field, where video, infrared images and a variety of other surveillance of targets can be beamed from the air back to commanders in real time. 
 

"UAVs give us the capacity to protect our forces," said Phil Twardawa, the acting chief scientist at the Defence Research and Development Canada lab in Valcartier, Que.

"It's a fantastic capability."

Roughly $75,000 has been set aside for the study, which will involve laboratory computer simulations and field testing. Work is expected to begin next spring.

The country's 12 patrol frigates are equipped to carry helicopters and would require modification, depending upon the unmanned aerial vehicle chosen by the navy.

The study comes just weeks after the Conservative government announced it would proceed with a $3.1-billion life-extending refit on the warships.

Navy sources say there is also consideration being given to fitting UAVs on to the planned Arctic patrol ships, which are not due to enter service until 2013 - or after.

Twardawa said the navy is determined to utilize the technology. The research lab's role will be to help weed through the various models to determine what's best suited to operate from the pitching deck of a warship in the often harsh conditions found on all three of Canada's oceans.

"We could just pick one now, but we would have a high percentage of loss," he said in an interview.

"As you approach a ship at sea there are all sorts of variable conditions, including wind and sea state. We don't want it hitting any antennas or the superstructure and causing damage."

The research lab will also do extensive testing on the kinds of sensors and equipment that will go into a naval drone.

The air force has been pushing ahead with a number of pilotless plane projects, but was recently dealt a setback.

The federal cabinet shelved a plan to purchase 12 American-built Predator drones, meant for use in Afghanistan and for surveillance during the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver. Concern over the recommended sole-sourcing of the contract was the reason, defence industry sources said.

Over the long term, air force planners are looking at spending $94 million on armed drones that can stay airborne for hours and fire precision munitions.

The navy's decision to jump on the UAV bandwagon could prove to be good news for Quebec-based Bombardier, which has developed a rotary-wing drone, the CL-327, known as the Guardian. Its compact design allows for it to take off and land vertically, which is important for shipboard operations.

The US Navy has tested the system, but at last report had not committed to buying any.

In the 1970s and 1980s Canada was a leader in the development of UAVs. Canadair, which later became Bombardier, in partnership with French and German companies laid the groundwork for much of the technical advancement seen today.

It developed a railed-launched, rocket-driven drone, the C-289, which was sold to Germany, France and Italy. But defence cuts in the early 1990s saw Canada take a pass on its own technology.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/08/16/4423289-cp.html

 
I did not think the "peanut" was in use anymore.  Does anyone have infomation on this?  Or is the MSM pulling one out of their....?
 
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/row/cl-327.htm

lists it as an improvement on the original "peanut", but we're still talking 1996 technology.  Am I out to lunch, or is there, perhaps, something better in use?  There don't seem to be too many V/STOL UAV out there, but I'm pretty sure I saw a very cool Discovery channel show on the next generation rotary wing UAVs.
 
As long as Bombardier doesn't get a contract without having to compete with the Firescout, I think it's good the Navy is looking at the technology.  I would think it would also be wise to bring the CCG in for that testing as well....


Matthew.  :salute:
 
The CL327 is technology that was developed and demonstrated to DND and DOD about this time in 1998.  So we are talking about a 9 year old product that has not been developed (to my knowledge) beyond it's original concept...for which they did not find any takers.

Considering the puny amount of money they want to invest in the research (75000$), I guess the CL327 is one of the few affordable (off the shelf) products they can tinker with.
 
Could be we have already bought & paid for a CL327.  Tests on a newer CL427 would probably cost a lot more than 75000$
 
The small amount represents the fact that this is only a study or "proof of concept" and not a trial of the CL system itself or purchase of that system.  The navy simply wants to look into operating UAVs from frigates.  Should it prove pratical, it may move forward will a full-scale aquisition project.  This is more of a "lets see if it works" evolution.  The same thing was done on the west coast for the litoral ISR experiment with fixed-wing UAVs.  We never bought the one that was used for that but it gave us data to use to determine what the criterias would be for a full project if it was decided to go ahead.
 
Bombardier was pushing the peanut when I was at the School of Artillery in the mid-70s. At the time the project was going nowhere fast because of money, or lack of same, and because the company was not interested in developing a sensor package.
 
http://www.vtol.org/uavpaper/NavyUAV.htm

VTOL UAVs Come of Age:
US Navy Begins Development of VTUAV

By Michael W. McKee, Ph.D.

On February 9, 2000, the U.S. Navy announced the winner of the Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD) contract for their next-generation unmanned air vehicle, the Vertical Takeoff and Landing Tactical Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (VTUAV). The $93.7 million contract was awarded by the Program Executive Office for Cruise Missiles and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles to Northrop Grumman’s Ryan Aeronautical Center, San Diego, to fully develop their Model 379 VTOL UAV. Full-rate production is scheduled to begin in 2003, with initial operational capability that summer.

The main roles of the VTUAV are to be reconnaissance, surveillance, targeting and intelligence gathering, using a combination infrared/optical sensor and a laser target designator. The Navy also envisions using an improved version for search and rescue: the UAV would home in on an emergency beacon and drop a line when overhead. Another use would be to carry a Common Data Link (CDL) and serve as a radio/data relay platform. The VTUAV will allow a leap forward in payload sensor capability for naval surface fire, acting as a force multiplier for ships equipped with Extended Range Guided Munitions, the Advanced Gun System of the DD-21 Land Attack Destroyer, and land attack missiles, providing real-time battle damage assessment (BDA).

Edit: So can I get $75000 for leading DND to this web page.  ;D

 
I'm guessing that this will be a fairly complex engineering challenge.  Launching and recovering air vehicles off of a heaving deck has to be just about the most complex problem in aviation- completely automating it for a UAV should be interesting.

I am waiting to see how they solve the problem- it may also pay dividends for helo ops on small ships and make that safer, too.
 
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