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Technoviking said:
Maybe you should lead by example then.
Navy probes employee's ties to Ottawa murder victim
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Maybe you should lead by example then.
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Before we start b!tch slapping each other WRT freedom of association, remember, with rights comes responsibility.
This fellow may very well have nothing to do with the criminal activities of his friend, however that does not mean we, as a society, should not be able to ascertain whether that is true or not.
OMGs and OC in general have a history of co-opting individuals by bribery, extortion, kidnapping etc to ensure cooperation from otherwise law abiding persons. He may not have been co-opted, but that may not have prevented him from engaging in small talk about his work with his now deceased friend. Tidbits that you think may not give away the gamne can be linked with tidbits from other sources - and the game's afoot.
This fellow may very well have nothing to do with the criminal activities of his friend, however that does not mean we, as a society, should not be able to ascertain whether that is true or not.
OMGs and OC in general have a history of co-opting individuals by bribery, extortion, kidnapping etc to ensure cooperation from otherwise law abiding persons. He may not have been co-opted, but that may not have prevented him from engaging in small talk about his work with his now deceased friend. Tidbits that you think may not give away the gamne can be linked with tidbits from other sources - and the game's afoot.
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And that exact sort of association has caused security checks to fail and clearances to be denied.Technoviking said:
Assuming that all this information was identified and properly investigated at the time current security clearance was granted and then using this assumption to argue nothing should be done now, is situating the estimate to reach a desired conclusion.
Association with members of organized crime can preclude getting a security clearance. If you accept & agree with that premise, then you should also accept that an existing security clearance can be revoked (or at least reviewed) for the same reasons. Alternately, you are arguing that granting of security clearances should never consider a person's associations (be they members of organized crime, Chinese intelligence, or terrorist support fronts).
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http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/2012/03/28/19562851.html
By Danielle Bell, QMI Agency
OTTAWA - A civilian employee under investigation by military police for his friendship with an Ottawa murder victim tied to organized crime no longer works for the National Defence and Canadian Forces.
Cmdr. Hubert Genest said Wednesday that Joey Medaglia, who had secret security clearance at his job for the commander of the Royal Canadian Navy, completed his last day on Tuesday.
Medaglia had worked for the commander since 2009.
“He’s free to apply for other jobs within the federal public service,” said Genest, who would not elaborate on whether Medaglia quit or was fired.
An internal investigation was launched after officials became aware of Medaglia’s association with Graham Thomas, a known Hells Angels associate and convicted drug dealer who was one of two men gunned down at the Gloucester Centre on Oct. 26.
The connection to Thomas came as a “big surprise” to naval officials, who became aware when Medaglia requested time off after the shooting.
Investigators were also probing the process that led to Medaglia getting the second-highest level of security clearance, but said there are no changes being made in that regard.
Reliability screenings of civilian employees include reference, criminal record and credit checks.
By Danielle Bell, QMI Agency
OTTAWA - A civilian employee under investigation by military police for his friendship with an Ottawa murder victim tied to organized crime no longer works for the National Defence and Canadian Forces.
Cmdr. Hubert Genest said Wednesday that Joey Medaglia, who had secret security clearance at his job for the commander of the Royal Canadian Navy, completed his last day on Tuesday.
Medaglia had worked for the commander since 2009.
“He’s free to apply for other jobs within the federal public service,” said Genest, who would not elaborate on whether Medaglia quit or was fired.
An internal investigation was launched after officials became aware of Medaglia’s association with Graham Thomas, a known Hells Angels associate and convicted drug dealer who was one of two men gunned down at the Gloucester Centre on Oct. 26.
The connection to Thomas came as a “big surprise” to naval officials, who became aware when Medaglia requested time off after the shooting.
Investigators were also probing the process that led to Medaglia getting the second-highest level of security clearance, but said there are no changes being made in that regard.
Reliability screenings of civilian employees include reference, criminal record and credit checks.
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