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Why would they want to? What tangible benefit would they gain?
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Should they be spending the money to upgrade their shipyard in order to secure the contract?
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CANSEC is on, Saab Kockums - Submarine CANSEC
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You can almost hear Eric Idle's voice for some odd reason .
" Nice shipbuilding program you got here, Governor. Be a real shame if something happened to it.... Know what I mean ?"
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Be a shame if we asked someone else to build them....in say the US or south korea
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Oh you're funny !
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Government of Canada moves to next stage of third shipyard selection process with Chantier Davie - Canada.ca
The National Shipbuilding Strategy (NSS) is a long-term, multibillion-dollar program to renew the Canadian Coast Guard and Royal Canadian Navy fleets, creating good middle-class jobs across the country while revitalizing Canada’s marine industry.
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So they are going to build one icebreaker? I will take bets right now it will be over a 2 billion dollars.
Government of Canada moves to next stage of third shipyard selection process with Chantier Davie - Canada.ca
The National Shipbuilding Strategy (NSS) is a long-term, multibillion-dollar program to renew the Canadian Coast Guard and Royal Canadian Navy fleets, creating good middle-class jobs across the country while revitalizing Canada’s marine industry.www.canada.ca
Will they even be using the same design?
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Will be interesting to see if they require them to do similar facility upgrades, but should really be customized for the expected build package. If they are building just icebreakers the previous plan for the CG ships, JSS and Polar from 2010 may no longer make as much sense.
That's still the easy bit; there is a lot of process improvements to QC, design, planning etc to be done, and that's actually much more of a long term item than some new buildings and production lines.
That's still the easy bit; there is a lot of process improvements to QC, design, planning etc to be done, and that's actually much more of a long term item than some new buildings and production lines.
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Just imagine how much faster and cheaper these ships for CCG would be if purchased abroad (but now Coast Guard spending counts towards that NATO GDP target so maybe gov't likes that high cost)--and over three years just to get an agreement in place before any contracts. How many ships will be delivered before 2030? Bets?
Government of Canada moves to next stage of third shipyard selection process with Chantier Davie
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GATINEAU, QC, June 8, 2022
GATINEAU, QC, June 8, 2022 /CNW/ - The National Shipbuilding Strategy (NSS) is a long-term, multibillion-dollar program to renew the Canadian Coast Guard and Royal Canadian Navy fleets, creating good middle-class jobs across the country while revitalizing Canada's marine industry.
Today, the Government of Canada announced that it will begin negotiations with Chantier Davie of Lévis, Quebec, towards an umbrella agreement, to become the third strategic shipbuilding partner under the NSS. Pending successful negotiations, an agreement is expected to be in place by the end of 2022.
Chantier Davie submitted a proposal as part of the Request for Proposal process for the selection of a third NSS shipyard. This included a third-party assessment of the shipyard's infrastructure; submission and evaluation of a formal proposal from the shipyard; and a due diligence process to ensure the shipyard is financially capable of performing the work and making any necessary upgrades to its infrastructure.
The assessment was similar to the process previously undertaken in 2011 to select Irving Shipbuilding Inc. and Seaspan's Vancouver Shipyards as strategic partners under the NSS.
Pending successful negotiation of an umbrella agreement, Chantier Davie will build 1 of 2 polar icebreakers and 6 program icebreakers for the Canadian Coast Guard. Contracts for each project will be negotiated with the shipyard only after the signature of an umbrella agreement [emphasis added].
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- On May 22, 2019, the Government of Canada announced its intention to add a third Canadian shipyard as a partner under the NSS, and on August 2, 2019, Canada launched the competitive process to select the new shipyard.
- In May 2021, the Government of Canada announced it was moving forward with the construction of 2 polar icebreakers under the NSS. Seaspan Shipyards in Vancouver, British Columbia, will build 1, while the other will be built at Chantier Davie, pending the successful completion of the ongoing selection process.
- On July 14, 2021, the Government of Canada announced it had received Chantier Davie's supporting materials to become the third shipyard under the NSS.
- Canadian Coast Guard icebreakers are essential to Canada's economy, supporting year-round marine trade in eastern Canada, the St. Lawrence waterway and the Great Lakes. They provide critical icebreaking services to ensure commercial ships have access to Canadian ports during the winter, and they support summer resupply activities to Canada's Arctic communities and their industries. They are also important platforms for search and rescue and environmental response operations.
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Government of Canada moves to next stage of third shipyard selection process with Chantier DavieCanada NewsWireGATINEAU, QC, June 8, 2022GATINEAU, QC, June 8, 2022 /CNW/ - The National Shipbuilding Strategy (NSS) is a long-term, multibillion-dollar program to renew the Canadian Coast Guard and...finance.yahoo.com
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Three from Seaspan in Vancouver. 2xJSS and the OOSV for sure. After that no idea.
How do unarmed ships contribute to defense spending?
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I hear we can get good prices from the Chinese
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How do SAR aircraft, or trucks, or C-17's or tugboats for dockyard or the Joint Support ship? If it comes under the DND budget it's defense spending. Unarmed vessels have important roles to play in defense work.
All those contribute to the mission of combat arms. Unarmed coast guard vessels not so much. If our coast guard was armed like most other countries then sure. How will our coast guard help if China attacks...well anywhere? Politely ask them to leave?
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Oh I get your question. Yah Coast guard are not constabulary.
If the DND uses coast guard spending in the NATO spending calculation then we are in worse shape then I thought. They should at least strap a .50 cal to the deck and pretend they are armed if they want NATO credit for coast guard dollars.
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SAR, environmental protection, fisheries. Many ways to protect people, their livelihoods and their communities without having a 25mm canon.
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