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New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

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Does Canada need corvettes with 60 crew whose main objective is ship interdiction rather than all of the the other crap added to the type 26? Gowind anyone?
Yes to corvette, No to the mission. Your mission set is wrong. Gowind is around the size I think they are considering for the Continental Defence Corvette project, but that's a warship, with less than 60 crew concept. If the RCN is going to have more ships, they need to be able to fight.
 
Yes to corvette, No to the mission. Your mission set is wrong. Gowind is around the size I think they are considering for the Continental Defence Corvette project, but that's a warship, with less than 60 crew concept. If the RCN is going to have more ships, they need to be able to fight.

So surveillance and interdiction are Coast Guard missions?
 
Yes to corvette, No to the mission. Your mission set is wrong. Gowind is around the size I think they are considering for the Continental Defence Corvette project, but that's a warship, with less than 60 crew concept. If the RCN is going to have more ships, they need to be able to fight.

Because of our epic coastline and sparse population, our best contribution to NATO would be our naval cooperation with Norway and Denmark. Any ship eating a couple of AShM north of Iqaluit would be screwed. Even in the Alaskan Panhandle would cause problems (I’ve had problems there without the missiles). I don’t want sailors dead, but perhaps should redefine what constitutes survivability.
 

Who signed the checks for the Marine Atlantic ferry built by the same Chinese company?


On June 10, 2025, BC Ferries announced that CMI Weihai Shipyard will build four New Major Vessels, a global leader in passenger ferry construction. CMI Weihai was selected following a competitive international process that included independent evaluations, site inspections, and third-party reference checks.

The decision was based on the shipyard’s:
  • Proven track record delivering safe, reliable ferries worldwide
  • Experience meeting Canadian regulatory standards
  • Strong safety and quality systems
  • Ability to deliver on time and on budget
CMI Weihai has a strong track record of building passenger and vehicle vessels for large international operators including Stena RoRo (Sweden) and Grimaldi Lines (Italy). Through its long-term partnership with Stena RoRo, CMI Weihai has built vessels for Canada’s Marine Atlantic ferry company and other major ferry operators such as Corsica Linea and Brittany Ferries (France). CMI Weihai’s work on a vessel for Marine Atlantic gives the shipyard direct experience meeting Transport Canada regulatory requirements. We will have a fleet renewal team on-site throughout construction to provide oversight and ensure safety, quality, and performance at every stage.


“We are very excited to welcome the Ala’suinu to our service. With a focus on reducing our environmental impact, the latest accessibility features, state-of-the-art technologies, and enhanced customer amenities, I am confident our customers will be impressed with the newest addition to our fleet. I would like to thank the Government of Canada for their investment making it possible to add the Ala’suinu to our fleet.”

Gary O’Brien
Chair, Board of Directors, Marine Atlantic


“I would like to thank our partners, Stena RoRo, for their dedication and commitment to ensuring the delivery of the Ala’suinu. Our charter period has now begun, and we will have the option to purchase the vessel after a five-year period. We are excited for the enhancements this vessel will offer our customers and I look forward to its arrival in April.”

Murray Hupman
President and CEO, Marine Atlantic

“The Ala’suinu is a specially designed vessel for Marine Atlantic
. In this vessel, another dimension of sustainability has been added to minimize underwater noise for the benefit of marine life off Canada's coasts. Multi-fuel engines and battery hybrid technology further contribute to minimizing Marine Atlantic's environmental impact.”

Per Westling
Managing Director of Stena RoRo AB

Marine Atlantic is a Canadian federal Crown corporation
tasked with fulfilling the constitutional mandate of offering freight and passenger service between the Provinces of Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia.


Marine Atlantic has a new ferry in the water, and it will soon begin its journey from a shipyard in China and sail into Atlantic Canada in April.


Following about two years of design work, Stena ordered the first four vessels of the class from Chinese shipbuilder AVIC Weihai (now China Merchants Jinling Shipyard)
The day after Brittany Ferries ordered two additional E-Flexers, Marine Atlantic ordered an E-Flexer. This vessel will be slightly shorter than the standard E-Flexer at 202.9 m (665 ft 8 in) and will run on Marine Atlantic's two routes, connecting the North Sydney-Port aux Basques-Argentia triangle

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I still think we should be building these types of vessels under government subsidy to provide vessels that can be procured for military sealift and disaster relief. Build them to open ocean and ice class standards with military comms links and helipads.
 
As a sidebar, our policy now for combatants is never again for reef societies. In practical terms, there is too much controlled goods on them, and also the cost to clean them first is astronomical. And the reef societies keep dropping the ball and costs us more again to take them back or finish the process.
Do we still do sink-ex?
Not all the Reef Societies and whoever dreamed up that policy had better take a hard look at the new realities of ship scrapping, the costs of scrapping have shot up through the roof. Not to mention the GHG emissions that the government will have to account for.
The only scrapper on this coast has been shut down. It's actually easier to prep a ship for reefing, than it is for scrapping and you can have the asbestos remain on board.

The ARSBC will no longer take custody of a ship, but will assist in planning location, permitting, consultation and developing the sink plan, explosive layout. This removes the issues from all previous reefings, both successful and otherwise.

Hydrocarbons- Must be removed for both scrapping/reefing
PCB's - Must be removed for both scrapping/reefing
bottom paint - depending on the type and age can be left on for reefing
High Value metals (Brass, copper, stainless, etc)- removed for both scrapping/reefing
ITAR items- Likely must be removed for both scrapping/reefing.

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There's always beaching it in Bangladesh and having someone else deal with it.
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