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Got any recommendations out of this crew:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?Nav=|c:234|

Thanks
Mike
 
We have a couple of APC UPC's at my office here... so far so good. that's about all I can say without straying outside my lanes heh.
 
MJP has used them, seemed to like them a lot...apparently they back up their product without quibbles.
 
Most are too small

The only one I like from this link is: Tripp Lite Smart PRO 2200

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=215763&Sku=T105-1068%20A

There are better brands - but this fits spec-wise and is cheap for what it is.

You will note that it is rated at 1700 watts. - That makes sense.

The line on the spec. sheet that says 2200VA - can't be true. - unless it's on a 20A circuit.
Of course the line that says Max Input 15A would be wrong.
There is some inherent contradiction on the spec. sheet.

I did see some Matsushita adds that showed an 1800VA model - Costs about a thousand bucks I think.....

A Warrantee that extends to what's on the UPS is a good idea.
I would watch out for that.
 
Had a couple of the APC smart UPS where I last worked.  For business application we also had an extra battery that fits underneath, but I don't think you need that.  For 409$, it's pert good bang for the buck.
 
Uh, Geo ,

I, I don't know how to say this.......

I mentioned a UPS with melted batteries  in an earlier post  ;)

To be fair, It was a smaller one.

Business grade or Server sized or whatever, Fine - just NOT the consumer junk.

 
NP Flip,
The "smart UPS" is a good piece of kit.
also.... you can't always juge a product by one failure.  You might have had a defective one OR, too much of a load mighta damaged it's innards.
 
I'm pricing out a couple of options right now... Flip the link I posted above was for TigerDirect in the US so it's all US prices... My bad.
 
Geo,

Allow me to elaborate on my point of view.
The "smart UPS" is a good piece of kit.
I really don't know....Never seen one (of this model) with it's pants off.

The UPSs I have seen belong to a friend of mine who has around 30 servers
in his computer room with A/C which feels like a meat locker, and varied mix of
protection hardware.  He comes to me when they need attention.
Some are cheapies and a couple that were worth around 10K when they were new.

As I design and build electronic/electrical equipment for a living, I am familiar
with what would pass CSA and what would not. A UPS must have over-current
protection and thermal protection. Activation of either of these protections should not
cause permanent damage. I have seen acceptable failures, such as tripping out or
not coming online, but the self destruct mode shown by this particular model
(in three examples, all in the same power outage) should not be possible.  My guess is that the manufacturer substituted battery types.
I know the protection for this model was inadequate. :o

I also acknowledge myself to be a harsh judge of things electronic.

All of that being said - I would rather see Mike and the Sacred Server for ARMY.ca
put on a more worthy UPS. It's my opinion only, mind you- It's up to Mike.

Personally, I wouldn't mind making a small donation if that helps get a safer UPS.
I WILL continue the search around here for a UPS - If I find one though,
shipping will be a b!tch problem.

 
Flip and geo,

Your advice is greatly appreciated! As it stands, I'm planning on getting this UPS once we can afford it:

http://www.xdeli.ca/SMART-PRO-NET-2200-VA-1600W-60HZ-p-61742.html

This is the one Flip recommended above and it seems to be the best priced in it's range. I'm open to suggestions and comments from all - I don't want to go through this again in a year or two if I can avoid it. :)


Thanks
Mike

Edit: Holy crap... I just noticed the weight: 95 lbs!
 
I don't want to go through this again in a year or two if I can avoid it.

And on that point, let me find out what I can on replacement batteries.
That's the reason the warranty is only two years.
 
Ah, good thinking! Batteries that can't be removed/replaced or are prohibitively expensive are not a good thing. Thanks for thinking of that one!
 
Heh, I guess I should have picked that out of the description. ;)

Thanks!
 
The external batterypack will usually be more expensive as you are paying for casing, cabling, etc.
Replacement batteries should (based on personal experience with APC UPS') be cheaper.  They should also be easy to change.
 
The internal replacement batteries ( I been told ) are 12 Volt 35 A and you need two.
The price each varies between $103 and $104 CAD around here and you should not
need them for around 30 months or so ( my guess ).

Mike, if you see anything else that is of some interest we can get the cost of ownership data for that too.

Cheers all!
 
Got a call from a supplier late today.

The replacement batteries can be acquired for $78.00 CAD ea.

Turns out they are a very common type - often used in electric
wheelchairs etc.

Not a biggie I know - but it's nice to have an improving alternative. ;D
 
Ok folks, the new UPS was just ordered and came in a hair under a grand (incl. taxes, shipping, etc.) Should be here late in the week, I'll post an update when it arrives.

We should be all set for hardware for the next little while, unless having a UPS means I now need raised floors and better HVAC in my office. ;)

Thanks to everyone who helped pick out the right hardware, I'd have been lost otherwise.
 
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