Officers and Swagger Sticks
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Snakedoc said:
Ah, forgot about those. But, correct me if I am wrong...aren't they in the 'not mandatory, but get them anyways because you're an officer' category? I know some recently commissioned navy folks I know were 'highly advised' to get that order of dress in addition to their mess dress.
Edit: To be honest, if I was a sailor I'd probably invest in those. That order of dress is second only to a piper in full highland regelia in overall 'cool-ness'.
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My Regiment's Officers and Snr NCOs wear patrols, and we are in the process of establishing the viability\ need for the Jr ranks. Many of the Reserve Armoured Recce regiments wear them. I wear my DEU once a year at the Men's Xmas dinner. All the rest of the times, when not in CADPAT (or Mess Kit) we are in Patrols. You'll find the reference for them in Ch 5 of the Dress Regs - A-PD-201-000/PT-000
Don't be so sure. The chain mail eppaulettes and spurs have turned more than one damsels head
Piper said:
Don't be so sure. The chain mail eppaulettes and spurs have turned more than one damsels head
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Piper said::rofl:
How old ARE you?
Old enough to know and practice the difference between treachery and youthful exuberance >
To paraphrase another old bastard around here, first I reached the rank of centurion, then I drove one (for 3 years ;D. Tripwire for NATO, and all that)The chain mail and spurs are part of the current patrol dress
recceguy said:Old enough to know and practice the difference between treachery and youthful exuberance >
The chain mail and spurs are part of the current patrol dress
Ahhh...back when Jesus was a corporal too I assume? ;D
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recceguy said:My Regiment's Officers and Snr NCOs wear patrols, and we are in the process of establishing the viability\ need for the Jr ranks. Many of the Reserve Armoured Recce regiments wear them. I wear my DEU once a year at the Men's Xmas dinner. All the rest of the times, when not in CADPAT (or Mess Kit) we are in Patrols. You'll find the reference for them in Ch 5 of the Dress Regs - A-PD-201-000/PT-000
Don't be so sure. The chain mail eppaulettes and spurs have turned more than one damsels head
I've always been a little confused that the PRes was able to retain Patrol Dress as an optional item (along with NavRes and RegF Navy) yet the RegF Army was not. I assume you're PRes then recce?
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Corps of Guides said:
Am now :nod:
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Loachman said:
That's OK Loachman, you would just change from being a dashing
Michael O'Leary said:
I used to get some flak from the RSM via the adjutant when I was the BC D Bty over my moustache. The dress regulations said something about moustaches not growing beyond the corner of the mouth. Unfortunately the drawing that had gone to the clothing and dress committee was of the Fu Manchu droopy version, not the big handlebar. The adjutant didn't have the balls to take it to the CO, even when I called him, well, some names majors could use to the adjutant.
Loachman, I knew there was something I liked about you besides your tac hel background.
As four patrols, I am of two minds. The order of dress required a lot of upkeep, was not too practical and cost an arm and a leg. It may have, however, saved my butt one night when I was orderly officer in 1 RCHA and I had to intervene in a dangerous situation involving alcohol, adultery and a loaded firearm. Maybe, just maybe, being instantly recognizable as an officer bought me a few seconds to start a discussion with a poor, screwed up troop whose life suddenly had gone way off the rails.
The Anti-Royal
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It certainly was.
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Back to sticks.
At one point, Routine Orders called for soldiers to have a stick in their possession when 'walking out' i.e., leaving camp. Countless photos, up to the Second World War show soldiers of all ranks holding sticks - often supplied by the photographer as a standard prop. In the 18th and 19th centuries the stick was often a soldier's 'weapon' to beat away pesky dogs and peskier civilians who blocked his route. Until the 1960's (and later in some regiments) a 'stick' was the Colonel's prize to the best soldier - who then carried this for a day or week.
The officers' stick came from the riding crop and was more a badge of class than it was of rank. Again, with the 1968 disappearance of the British-patterned uniform, salute, rank badges et al, the swagger stick also disappeared. The exception is the CMP where an officer may still obtain, upon signature, a riding crop from the Stores in Regina - even though he has no opportunity to carry it.
At one point, Routine Orders called for soldiers to have a stick in their possession when 'walking out' i.e., leaving camp. Countless photos, up to the Second World War show soldiers of all ranks holding sticks - often supplied by the photographer as a standard prop. In the 18th and 19th centuries the stick was often a soldier's 'weapon' to beat away pesky dogs and peskier civilians who blocked his route. Until the 1960's (and later in some regiments) a 'stick' was the Colonel's prize to the best soldier - who then carried this for a day or week.
The officers' stick came from the riding crop and was more a badge of class than it was of rank. Again, with the 1968 disappearance of the British-patterned uniform, salute, rank badges et al, the swagger stick also disappeared. The exception is the CMP where an officer may still obtain, upon signature, a riding crop from the Stores in Regina - even though he has no opportunity to carry it.
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From the Regimental Standing Orders of The RCR, 1960
http://regimentalrogue.com/rcrbadges/rcr-dress_regs_1960.html
Chapter II - Dress Regulations
(The 1967 edition has the same information.)
http://regimentalrogue.com/rcrbadges/rcr-dress_regs_1960.html
Chapter II - Dress Regulations
(The 1967 edition has the same information.)
