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"Ottawa barbershop won't cut woman's hair"

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Interesting tug of war here, from the Canadian Press, shared in accordance with the Fair Dealing provisions (§29) of the Copyright  Act:
An Ottawa woman says her rights were violated when a barbershop in the Glebe neighbourhood refused to cut her hair.

Jayda Kelsall said she was riding her bike along Bank Street when a sign promising a cheap haircut caught her eye.

She said she went inside the Imperial Barber Shop and was told to go somewhere else.

"I was pretty shocked," she said. "I have really short hair. I have a mohawk. I was just looking for the sides to be shaved a little bit and trimmed up, and they flat out said no."

Imperial owner Gilles Lemenoise said his staff turn women away all the time.

Pointing to the hair salon above his barbershop, he said that to avoid competition his landlord bans him from cutting women's hair.

But the landlord, Minto Group, said Imperial misinterpreted the agreement.

"However exactly it's written in the lease I don't know," said Greg Rogers, executive vice-president. "But the spirit of the agreement is that he deliver men's-style haircuts."

It doesn't matter whether a man or woman gets the cut, but it has to be a men's style, Rogers said.

Kelsall said she hasn't decided if she'll take legal action, but she doesn't buy Imperial's reason for denying her a cut.

"They are accountable for enforcing a discriminatory policy not because their landlord asked them to but because they agreed to do so," she said. "And start cutting people's hair regardless of what's between their legs."

I don't know what the lease says (if the landlord is also leasing space to a women's hair salon, I can see their point, and understand said salon complaining).

I do know that generally speaking, women who have very short, very simple haircuts can get a pretty good deal at a barber compared to what women seem to pay for similar 'dos in salons.
 
You know this wouldn't have occurred if the landlord had worded the contract correctly.
 
The Barbershop at the Canex in Kingston will not cut women's hair, no matter what length it is.  Their reasoning?  "Guys have to get their hair cut more often due to regulations."  ::)  Ummm, so do women, you twit.  It wouldn't be so bad if the difference in prices wasn't almost $10.  >:(  I go to the Vimy Barbershop instead.  :nod:
 
PMedMoe said:
The Barbershop at the Canex in Kingston will not cut women's hair, no matter what length it is.  Their reasoning?  "Guys have to get their hair cut more often due to regulations."  ::) ....
That rates a pretty big WTF, indeed....
 
Legal action?  Nice!  It's Discrimination! her RIGHTS!

She couldn't get a $8 haircut, take him to court for millions!
It's not about the money though.
 
Apollo Diomedes said:
Legal action?  Nice!  It's Discrimination! her RIGHTS!

She couldn't get a $8 haircut, take him to court for millions!
It's not about the money though.
That said (and agreed with), it raises an interesting market argument - what if more and more women got their simpler haircuts at barber shops?  Would we hear salons crying "foul" as they try to cover their overheads as traffic drops?

My barber (admittedly a less-than-30-year-old guy who took over his dad's shop) tells me something like 10% of his customers are women coming in for streaking because they like his style.  Did I mention he's right next door to a women's hairstyling place?
 
The name of the barbershop seemed a little familiar - thought it was the shop I went to when I was posted to NDHQ (twenty plus years ago) - located at the end of Sparks Street.  Back then it was definitely a traditional barbershop (no women customers or barbers), and my usual barber was an ex-Foreign Legionaire who had served in Indochina (though he was out before Dien Bien Phu).  With a little google-fu found that to be one of the three locations for Imperial Barber Shop.  While not fully aware of the business practices of this particular establishment, it does not seem to be the stereotypical owner-operated barbershop that comes to mind when one has visions of a striped pole and its website does convey a sense that it is a men's barbershop (and not some sissy hair salon that 'styles' men's hair)

Also found a review of one of the locations on Kyle's Guide to Ottawa Barber Shops

Imperial Barber Shop
46 1/2 Sparks Street
(613) 232-0222
www.imperialbarbershop.com

It's been awhile since my last entry, but I have a good excuse this month. On May 3 our first child, Grey, was born. It's been a bit hectic ever since. However, as I was to be off work for several weeks I thought I'd try out Imperial Barber Shop at their original location on Slater Street. I had meant to try them out for months but they are open only Monday to Friday, which isn't normally convenient for me. So I thought this would be my only chance: sneak out while mom and baby are both asleep (risky as one or both could wake up at any moment).

As I had limited time, I decided to call ahead to make an appointment. A woman answered and took down my information, entering it into a computer. I have to say that that's a first for me. The other barbershops I've been to are pretty bare bone operations. In fact, Imperial is the only one that has a website. So if you want to learn about its history, etc, check out the link above.

WHAT TO EXPECT: My appointment was at 10 a.m. and I arrived pretty much on the nose. Inside, the place is very clean. The decore is retro" -- old-looking clock, old fashioned lettering, old looking wood, and it is pretty much the same as the Imperial on Slater Street.

There are three barber's chairs at this location. There were no clients at that moment. There was one barber waiting and she asked if I was the 10 o'clock appointment. I said "yes" and she directed me to her chair. On the wall was a certificate that indicated that my barber had passed an Imperial Barbering course in April 2009.

There was also an "a la carte" shaving menu on the wall. You can opt for a variety of shaving experiences from a 15 minute "daily shave" for $20 or even go for the "Imperial Shave" for $65. That one takes a good hour. In all cases, we're talking a traditional shave using a straight razor. That's something many barbers in town have stopped offering. Given I hadn't shaved in over a week, I decided to indulge in the "daily shave."

THE CUT: My barber wasn't too talkative. It didn't help that I was pretty sleep deprived. So it was a pretty quiet experience. I asked for a nice, short "summer cut" and that's exactly what I got. She then reclined the chair and proceeded with the shave. I started imaging the roaring 20s. Wasn't there a gangster in Chicago who was offed in a barber's chair while getting a shave? Well, nothing that exciting happened to me. It was, as advertised, over and done with in 15 minutes.

After she was done, my barber brought me a hot towel. I paid up and off I went.

COST: $22 (plus tip) for the cut and $20 for the shave. I wrote in a previous review that this is on the steep end for barbers. I have to say that Imperial may be technically a barber shop but, compared to the others out there, it really seems to be in between a barber shop and a salon. They've taken a lot of trouble to create a common experience for customers so I guess you get what you pay for. However, since I started this project I've grown fond of slumming it. Call me cheap!

THE RESULT: I went to brunch with a buddy who had also recently become a dad and he thought the cut looked pretty good. My wife thought it was pretty short but the next week she said it had grown into one of the best cuts I've had so far.
 
My barber has a plan that seems to work for him.  He leaves a lot of Playboys and Maxims in plain sight all over his shop.  He does it to discourage the women from coming in and staying.  Seems to work.  Strange though, it keeps the guys in longer.
 
Honestly, tempest in a teacup.
In Montreal, there are plenty of women's salons that only serve women. Never heard of any complaint because a man felt discriminated against.
 
Spanky said:
My barber has a plan that seems to work for him.  He leaves a lot of Playboys and Maxims in plain sight all over his shop.  He does it to discourage the women from coming in and staying.  Seems to work.  Strange though, it keeps the guys in longer.


My old barber as well. I went to him as a kid, and he would have them neatly laid out.  Mr. Lui.  Up the street from my house, and he would talk to all of us, as he cut hair.  Men would come there to hang out, have a coffee and solve the worlds problems.  His TV had either some news channel, or one form o sport on, usually soccer.  He did both Men's and Women's hair though, old school with a dash of new.

He passed away, 5 years ago, right before I had a chance to bring junior there. 

Those were the days, dang a tear comes to the eye.

dileas

tess
 
Went past the place today as I went about my day. Nice place, think I may give it a try.
 
              This just makes me laugh its ok for this women to get her nickers in a not cause he will not cut her hair but its ok for Curves to keep men out of there gym  sheesh  ::)
 
And a response from Imperial Barber Shop.
http://www.imperialbarbershop.com/IBSStatement20100716.htm

STATEMENT BY IMPERIAL BARBER SHOP

July 16, 2010

Ottawa, Ontario – Nancee Hunter, Owner of Imperial Barber Shop, today issued the following statement:

“Earlier today CBC radio aired a story concerning the services provided by Imperial Barber Shop (IBS) and a term of its lease aimed at restricting those services at its Glebe location.

IBS was surprised to learn from the CBC story that the landlord of its Glebe location deemed IBS’s understanding of its agreement to be a misinterpretation, and was pleased to receive late on Thursday (July 15th) an amendment to its lease that reworded the clause in question, to prevent any misinterpretation.

IBS is committed to furthering the Barber Shop tradition of high quality, male-oriented, hair grooming, such as hot towel straight razor shaves, beard and moustache trims, nose, ear and eye brow trims, neck shaves, etc.  The company is pleased to be able now to offer those services to all customers at its Glebe facility, as it has been doing at its other locations for many years.

IBS wishes to state that it regrets the circumstances leading to CBC’s report. IBS is grateful to the many women and men who voiced their understanding and support for the company’s position in this matter, and it is hopeful that the CBC’s airing of this story will not exacerbate any gender-divisive sentiments that may still exist within the local community.”
 
Our 'man world' shrinks every day.

In Regina all CF pers darkened (and still do) 'Ivan the Butcher' at the River heights Shopping Centre, just off Regina Avenue and Elphinstone Street. He is still open, and the inside has not changed since I was 17. Same black/white tiled floor, old black rotary telephone, same pics on the wall, and truly a man's world. One can talk of hockey, sex, hunting, guns, politics, army stuff, and cars, all without hinderance  ;D

In my entire time there, I had never seen a woman or a female child in there ever.

I shave my head every 2 days, so no need for a barber. 

CC
 
Carcharodon Carcharias said:
In my entire time there, I had never seen a woman or a female child in there ever.

I shave my head every 2 days, so no need for a barber. 

CC


Hmmm.. Ya think that you may have spooked them, Colonel Kurtz.....

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dileas

tess

 
karl28 said:
              This just makes me laugh its ok for this women to get her nickers in a not cause he will not cut her hair but its ok for Curves to keep men out of there gym  sheesh  ::)

"All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others."
    - George Orwell - Animal Farm
 
Anyone who thinks stuff like this is about equality is dreaming.
 
Can someone explain to me how a place like curves can cater to women only but a barber shop that would only take male clients be subject to discrimination laws?
 
Apollo Diomedes said:
Can someone explain to me how a place like curves can cater to women only but a barber shop that would only take male clients be subject to discrimination laws?

Why don't we wait and see if she gets anywhere with her complaint, or loses just like the men who have lost their human rights cases over trying to join women's gyms.

 
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