Our North - SSE Policy Update Megathread

[Maxman1]

So reopening CFS Frobisher Bay.

CFS Frobisher Bay - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[daftandbarmy]

So reopening CFS Frobisher Bay.

CFS Frobisher Bay - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Clearly, the Yanks are already invading Iqaluit. Look at the way they spelled 'armoury'

 

[Kirkhill]

Iqaluit - Latitude 63.7467° N, Population 7248

Fairbanks - Latitude 64.8401° N, Population 31,856
Pituffik - 76.5293° N, Population 650

Yellowknife - Latitude 62.4540° N
Inuvik - 68.3594° N
Resolute - 74.6973° N.
Alert - 82.5018° N

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Iqaluit is a Forward Operating Location
Does it need a permanent permanent force in residence? Or could it be upgraded and stocked to support High Arctic deployments and manned by local civilian contractors with an enhanced Ranger force providing local police/security service. A lilypad for southern squadrons to squat on.

I note that Pituffik has a population of 650 with most of that being locals and civilian contractors. The uniformed component seems to be about 150 with HQ back in Colorado.

 

[Navy_Pete]

I like how the Yanks do it. Everyone gets an initial issue, after it's on your dime.

It's actually both, it's poor contacting at the LCMM level and poor SC management, again at the LCMM level.

The clothing cell is a weird black box, but is apparently a terrible place to work where they never get anywhere near enough money to keep up with known usage or initial issue, lot of confliciting and changing requirements from environment commanders and other issues. The few people I knew that dropped in there were looking for a posting by maintop, and lot of the civilians jump on lateral moves to pretty much anywhere else.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Other American traces.

Alert, Eureka, Resolute, Mould Bay, Isachsen, (Joint Arctic Weather Stations 1946-1950)
Iqaluit (Frobisher), Kuujuaq (Chimo), 1942

CANOL Norman Wells Project (1942)
Alaska Highway (1942)
Prince Rupert (1942) - Rupert existed prior to 1942 but the Americans connected it to Terrace and then the Alaska Highway.

NORAD
Pinetree Line
DEW Line
BMEWS Line
North Warning System

And all the airfields on Greenland, including Thule (Pituffik) (1943)

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If it wasn't for the USAF and the HBC there would be no development north of Yonge Street.

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Sorry, I short changed Bell, Alcoa and Standard Oil.

PPS - Might also want to reference the cultural importance of Andrew Carnegie and his Carnegie Libraries.

All of the docks at Port Edward (close to Prince Rupert) were built by the Americans, with no approval from Canada, after the crisis calmed down, they went "Oops, sorry" and Canada wrote OIC's approving them as is.

 

[YZT580]

All of the docks at Port Edward (close to Prince Rupert) were built by the Americans, with no approval from Canada, after the crisis calmed down, they went "Oops, sorry" and Canada wrote OIC's approving them as is.

We weren't entirely dependent on the Americans by any means. Had the fortunate chance to spend a fair bit of time with a Canadian vet (Wes McIntosh) who spent years after WW2 freighting supplies up during the construction of the NORAD sites. There were lots of Canadians involved in all of that. His memoires are well worth the read if you can find a copy.

 

[KevinB]

Clearly, the Yanks are already invading Iqaluit. Look at the way they spelled 'armoury'

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Biggest benefit to being the 51st State -- you dump a lot of useless U's.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Biggest benefit to being the 51st State -- you dump a lot of useless U's.

Just imagine the threads here on Army.ca about starting a National Guard as well......

 

[foresterab]

We weren't entirely dependent on the Americans by any means. Had the fortunate chance to spend a fair bit of time with a Canadian vet (Wes McIntosh) who spent years after WW2 freighting supplies up during the construction of the NORAD sites. There were lots of Canadians involved in all of that. His memoires are well worth the read if you can find a copy.

Grew up talking with the "old boys" of whom many had worked on the Alaska Highway/CANOL road or NORAD sites (Dew and Pinetree chains). Remembering asking one of them if the war years and rationing affected them much..."nope..not really. Any time we were short we just went to Dawson Creek - Mile 0 - and did some nighttime shopping" "shopping?" "Well they had to fire a warning shot first.....mind you some of them were better shots than others".

Several then went on to join the various Armed Forces....with a significant number not returning. Also the Air Ferry routes to Russia some folks got involved with.

50 years later still finding out about more sites/projects that were going on around the north that were short lived/small numbers/under Secrets Act.

 

[MilEME09]

Another HQ but farther north is not required.

Thankfully JTF North HQ already exists

 

[Kirkhill]

Thankfully JTF North HQ already exists

Yellowknife at 62.5N
Iqaluit marginally further north at 63.7N
Inuvik 68N

Arctic Circle 66.3N

Resolute 74.7N
Alert 82N

 

[MilEME09]

Yellowknife at 62.5N
Iqaluit marginally further north at 63.7N
Inuvik 68N

Arctic Circle 66.3N

Resolute 74.7N
Alert 82N

fine, you win, lets convene a council to decide what type of general we need in Iqaluit

 

[Kirkhill]

fine, you win, lets convene a council to decide what type of general we need in Iqaluit

Commander Nunavut National Guard? Brigadier General?

Or maybe just Adjutant General?

 

[daftandbarmy]

Yellowknife at 62.5N
Iqaluit marginally further north at 63.7N
Inuvik 68N

Arctic Circle 66.3N

Resolute 74.7N
Alert 82N

Can confirm