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Closer to homeMaybe we should just start up a national labour service, because 'work will make us all free'.
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Eh, Canada.
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This wasn't a thousand miles away from Jimmy the Sixth's 1606 proposal for Coalyers and Salters that launched slavery in the colonies. Nor was it far from the Workhouses.
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This wasn't a thousand miles away from Jimmy the Sixth's 1606 proposal for Coalyers and Salters that launched slavery in the colonies. Nor was it far from the Workhouses.
Yes and no. Protecting the airfield is part of protecting aircraft. Survivability onion and all that.
But also, unlike the army or navy, our assets travel a lot. So there's a need to provide asset protection away from home too. We don't do this well right now. It will change with the new trade and new units.
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I understand your point. And your onion analogy is apt. What I was wondering about is if the securing of the base demands the same level of clearance as the securing of the aircraft? And, especially in the case of the FOLs, and expeditionary bases, whether or not the RCAF Protection Force, which I presumed to be something of a travelling road show, would be more at home securing the aircraft and the hangars than the distant perimeters? On expedition those aircraft will be operating from bases secured by foreigners, local nationals.
I could easily envisage Canadian reserve units being told off for perimeter security at home or abroad while the Protection Force managed close protection of the assets.
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We are getting into territory I am not comfortable discussing, except to say that if reservists are involved, they will be Air Reservists.
No idea. It may well be different by fleet and maybe aircraft status (armed vs not). They are going through all that occupational analysis and what the training plan needs to be, etc right now.
The army is the army. Reg or Res isn't relevant. The point of this is for the wings to have organic security forces that they can employ, not to rely on anybody else, or misemploy aircraft technicians and engineering officers to do asset protection.
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I'll run away now.
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I'll run away now.
But (sorry), you have a track record with gainfully employed reservists don't you? Airfield engineers for example?
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this would be called a 3* or less.How stunning and brave of the air force to go place and need security...
Yes...the navy is known for not going anywhere, or having to deal with security threats on it's own.
How stunning and brave of the air force to go place and need security...
Mostly, I was responding to an army centric individual.
But also y'all don't park ships and walk away like aircrew do to aircraft. And do you go to any port which doesn't have some form of security?
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Maybe the TASOs should actually like, provide aviation security instead of trying to get into the first cab ahead of the aircrew heading to the hotel...
Hotel bed or Bar?
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That's the thing, the ship is your hotel and your workspace.
I have stood many a foreign port duty watch alongside air crew members that were helping protect the ship.
I'm not suggesting the challenges aren't different, but lets not pretend the RCAF is doing something new here. The Nav Res has/had a Port Security Team for exactly the same purpose back in 2017, when I did my last deployment on WIN.
Good for you I guess?
Nobody said the RCAF is doing anything new. I'm explaining why the RCAF is choosing to develop its own force protection rather than really on the army as a previous poster suggested.
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Well I'd be tired too if I just crushed box lunches an entire flight so it's a toss up.
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You literally lumped the RCN in with the CA, and I called you out, now you want to pretend that I was the one who started this?
One of the largest stumbling blocks to the CAF being a single unified force, is the reality that most members live in little bubbles within their own element.
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