Past Applications

[Croony]

5 years ago i applied to an infantry unit in the CF reserves.  I completed the IQ, and health exams but i did not go to the interview or do the exercise exam.  The reason was i decided to go to university instead.  I didn't inform the recruiting office of my intent and so you can say i "fell through."  Now i want to apply to the RegF as an engineering officer.  On the application they ask you if you have applied to the CF before.  Since i did not complete the application process the first time i could say 'no' on the new application because i was never rejected or accepted before thus it can be argued that the first application did not count.  Now, is this a wise course of action?  I've been reading on other threads that telling the whole truth is the best course of action since lying can come back and bite you on the butt.  But i don't think that i'm lying, its a matter of personal opinion.  Another question is that does the recruitment officer look unfavourably on such candidates who have a past of not completing the interview?  How long does the recruitment centre hold files on people like me?  Do they discard my file once no reply has been made after a predetermined amount of time?

 

[48Highlander]

Don't quote me but I beleive they only hold them for 3 years.  If you admit that you applied before, it won't count against you.  The main reason for that question is so they can go back and retreive any relevant files they might have on you.  For instance, if a year ago you applied, did some tests, and then changed your mind, you might not have to re-do the aptitude test.  Or if they determined back then that you have a certain medical condition, then they know to look for it again.  In any event, you really have no reason to start off your career in the CF with a lie.

 

[beach_bum]

The question asks if you have ever applied for the CF before, not if you were rejected before.  Therefore, if you do not state that you have applied previously, you are lying.  When asked about your previous application, just tell them the truth.  Not a big deal.  It will however, become a very big deal if you do not admit to applying.

 

[bossi]

If you wrote the aptitude test during your previous application, it might (perhaps even probably...) cause some confusion and even embarassment if you don't tell them ... and then they find out after you've written the test a second time ...
(who knows?  You might even be accused of trying to cheat, by lying about the test so you could get a better score ...).

So, give yourself a pat on the back for asking for advice, but ... give yourself a kick in the pants for trying to cut corners (chuckle!)

Okay, just kidding - but, seriously ...

... Since i did not complete the application process the first time i could say 'no' on the new application because i was never rejected or accepted before thus it can be argued that the first application did not count.

In the Army, there's the expression "barrack room lawyer".
What you've argued is analogous to whether you were "charged", "tried", "found guilty" or "convicted" of a crime ... without ever discussing whether in fact a crime was COMMITTED.

... But i don't think that i'm lying, its a matter of personal opinion.

The Army is an unusual institution.  Sometimes, your opinion doesn't matter as much as ... oh, I don't know ... the recruiting officer's ... (especially if he discovers you've written the test previously, didn't tell him, and causes him to wonder whether you were lying, trying to cheat, or just plain ... whatever ...)

Nod your head up and down.

 

[Croony]

Thanks for the advice guys, i will put yes on the app and just tell them the situation....I have been really desiring to join for many a year now...Hope to be serving with you soon.

Chimo!

 

[Love793]

That's your best option.  CFAT scores by the way are valid for 5 yrs.

 

[Veterans son]

That's your best option.   CFAT scores by the way are valid for 5 yrs.

That's good news.
For some reason I thought that the aptitude test scores were only vaild for three years. ???

 

[kincanucks]

That's your best option.   CFAT scores by the way are valid for 5 yrs.

There is no expiration period on the current CFAT.

 

[Pieman]

Don't they issue a service number when you write CFAT? The test may no longer be valid, but I would assume the service number probably is, and would still have his name associated with it....so if he did not mention he applied before, it may not slip under the radar anyway.

 

[ab136]

Once you make contact for an apt or med or interview....you get a service number