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Patriot

Well Kid......and I am sure you are one........I suppose any form of 'Service to Country', be it Military, Law Enforcement, Fire Services, or any other form of Emergency Services, along with any job that contributes to the betterment of the Nation can be considered "Patriotic".  Why would you ask?  Do you think otherwise?
 
if thats true then i guess every job available would be concidered patriotic. personnally think patriotism is more a state of mind than an act. im just asking do you think a person with no belief in thier militarys ideals should be serving with them.
 
velveteen_knight said:
if thats true then i guess every job available would be concidered patriotic. personnally think patriotism is more a state of mind than an act. im just asking do you think a person with no belief in thier militarys ideals should be serving with them.

If you didn't believe in what your country represents or is doing militarily ....Why would you join? For the money?  Oh I know all the real cool places they send you perhaps...
 
I would assume many people are content with those lines of work as opposed to becoming soldiers and risking their lives overseas.
 
Not trying to be rude but wondering where you are coming from....

Perhaps it's adventure your looking for....which I say, become a white water rafting guide and tour the world...Wear lots of Roots gear and get a tattoo ( of a Canadian flag). Tell everybody how much you can drink and how well you play hockey...because that is patriotic as well ...I think.
 
alright heres a situation:

a young man f***s up badly and drops out of high school, gets kicked out of his house and is forces to work dangerous temp jobs at half pay, so that he can continue.... well, living. after four years of monatunous (spelling?) hard labour he gets the idea in his head that he might like to join the armed forces, but is undecided with the ethics of his military... now would it be wrong for him to join, just for the work?
 
velveteen_knight said:
im just asking do you think a person with no belief in thier militarys ideals should be serving with them.

No.

They are the low-life who really never fit in as 'Team Members'.  They put 'self' first, above all else.  They 'backstab' to get ahead.  They seldom have any morals, ethics, military ethos, nor leadership qualities.  They are the 'oxygen thieves' and 'waste of rations' who are leeches on the system.

Does that answer your question?
 
No.

Because if this young man is visiting a forum inhabited by nasty old soldiers he probably already has that little seed of patriotism in him. The nasty old soldiers will train him and thus help him develop it.

What would I say to the young man? Join a reserve unit for a year to see what it is like OR get yourself to a Canadian Forces Recruiting Center to see what a full time career can get you.

We were not all born patriots, we just had a Warrant Officer or two along the way who taught us how to be....
 
velveteen_knight said:
if thats true then i guess every job available would be concidered patriotic. personnally think patriotism is more a state of mind than an act. im just asking do you think a person with no belief in thier militarys ideals should be serving with them.

If you have no belief in our military's ideals than no you shouldn't join the military,... and we don't want you, much like if you don't agree with abortion, then you shouldn't work at an abortion clinic etc, etc,....
 
velveteen_knight,

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Once again, welcome to Army.ca.
 
see people on message boards can reply to the question without completely digressing from the point and getting annoyed. (eg. cplcaldwell) thank you.

 
Sorry not sure I'm getting you.

Did I do the digressing and getting annoyed or not?

Might just be your writing style or my thick head.
 
velveteen_knight said:
see people on message boards can reply to the question without completely digressing from the point and getting annoyed. (eg. cplcaldwell) thank you.

I don't believe my reply was digressed from the point and I'm far from annoyed,... more amused to tell the truth.

and,.. your welcome
 
I think he/she was complimenting cplcaldwell and flaming everyones else..
 
velveteen_knight,

Capitalization is one of the things addressed in the links I provided for your reading. Please take a breather and read them thoroughly. It will make things easier for everyone. Including yourself.

Filling in your profile would also help. Others would know where your coming from, ideologically, and it may prevent some of the friction.
 
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