Pay: Statements, Backpay, Benefits, Deductions (Taxes, T4), Deployed ect... [MERGED]

[Puss~in~Boots]

I thought there was already a thread on this..or is this the one - I'm lost.

The "jists" of it is that your earnings are considered "nontaxable" for the period you are in receipt of Risk Allowance and @ a specific level. Like someone said earlier, it is important that you enrolment(Reservists on Class C especially) and RA are inputted in a timely fashion because we don't adjust any pay/allowance regarding late input of allowance. This is a unit/clerk responsibility.

Also, there is a maximum you can claim a month for tax exemption purposes. This is capped at the CWO IPC04 rate of pay. Note that any credits/debits posted to your account will count towards tax exemption, up to the max) ie: backdated promo posted to ccps while RA is running, you May benefit from more tax exemption. This is the same for debits. It will lower your exemption amount.

The portion of earnings that is deemed non-taxable will be reflected in BOX 43 of the T4 and as a footnote on the Releve1. There is a calculation in the tax return that pertains directly to this.

I'll post some links later fyi like a FAQ's regarding Tax Relief

 

[dapaterson]

The limit is the CFCWO IPC4 rate - meaning that when the increased pay scale for that appointment was promulgated, the cut-off rank/IPC went up to Maj IPC 1 (it used to be a mid- Capt IPC where officers maxed out).

 

[ryanvms]

Hi, I know this question has probably been asked and answered and i have searched, but I have only found vague references to the answers. Basically, I know you serve deployments of different lengths and there is no way of telling how long they will be, but
1) what is the amount of time off say per week of deployment? Is there a standard? Or is it just how long your ship is in port.
2)When your ship is in a Canadian port do you work on base doing shift work or is it like a normal 9-5 job then? If you are working like a 9-5 job what are you doing on base?
3)When you are deployed do you work every day for the whole deployment or are their days off in that time span? I know it is 5 on 5 off 7 on 7 off thats 80 hours a week, so how is this "compensated" as you are paid on salary?
Just seems a little fuzzy and i was hoping to clear this up.
Thanks for your time
Ryan

 

[S McPhee]

Well, there are a lot of variables involved with the answers to your questions, but I'll take a crack at it:

1) When you are "deployed" or sailing as I call it, you don't have any days off per se while at sea, but when you are in a foreign port you typically have 75% of the days in port off (or working 1 in 4 as they say.... although I hear we may be changing to only working 1 in 6).

2) When alongside in your home port, generally you would work Mon - Fri from 7:45 to 3:45.  In addition to this, you would be required to do a 24 hour "duty watch" every set amount of days (usually something like every 12th day). 

3)  While sailing, you will not have any days off.  You are compensated by making a fair salary that will also include sea duty allowance and post living differential allowance.

Hope this helps.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Hi, I know this question has probably been asked and answered and i have searched, but I have only found vague references to the answers. Basically, I know you serve deployments of different lengths and there is no way of telling how long they will be, but
1) what is the amount of time off say per week of deployment? Is there a standard? Or is it just how long your ship is in port.
2)When your ship is in a Canadian port do you work on base doing shift work or is it like a normal 9-5 job then? If you are working like a 9-5 job what are you doing on base?
3)When you are deployed do you work every day for the whole deployment or are their days off in that time span? I know it is 5 on 5 off 7 on 7 off thats 80 hours a week, so how is this "compensated" as you are paid on salary?
Just seems a little fuzzy and i was hoping to clear this up.
Thanks for your time
Ryan

I agree with "fear in combat is poison" but I would like to add if you worried about time off during a deployment you will be very miserable and if your worried about compensation for time off then I suggest the Navy may not be a wise career choice for you.

 

[ryanvms]

I woulnt say im "worried" about time off, I wanted to know if you get extra time off after a deployment. And as for pay, im not worried about that either, my point was that you are payed on salary so it seems kind of odd, because one week you could be working 80 hours and another 40....I guess it all averages out in the end.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Depending on how long a deployment is you may be entitled to pre-deployment leave and after you return you are entitled to post deployment leave. Thats in addition to yoour 20-25-30 days of leave of year.

 

[Michael OLeary]

Thats in addition to your 20-25-30 [work] days of leave per year.

Plus statutory holidays, plus special and short leave, plus sliders . . . . the list goes on.

But first, you work when the CF needs you, and some weeks have a lot more than 40 hours in them.  The basic compensation you get is called your pay.

 

[aesop081]

my point was that you are payed on salary so it seems kind of odd, because one week you could be working 80 hours and another 40....I guess it all averages out in the end.

It seems odd because you are looking at it only from the perspective of an employee on hourly wage. Lots of people in civvie street are paid a fixed salary no matter how many hours they work.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Plus statutory holidays, plus special and short leave, plus sliders . . . . the list goes on.

But first, you work when the CF needs you, and some weeks have a lot more than 40 hours in them.  The basic compensation you get is called your pay.

And there will be times when your boss will say to bad and not give you the time off...then you deal with it. Time off is a privilege not a right.

 

[Highlander60]

3)When you are deployed do you work every day for the whole deployment or are their days off in that time span? I know it is 5 on 5 off 7 on 7 off thats 80 hours a week, so how is this "compensated" as you are paid on salary?

Depends on the deployment and what the Commander decides. In Kandahar, in general, one morning off a week was the standard at one time. Most people just worked 7 days a week, 12 hours a day. Being busy passed the time better, and what the heck would you do with time off anyway other than going to the Sat market.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

Depends on the deployment and what the Commander decides. In Kandahar, in general, one morning off a week was the standard at one time. Most people just worked 7 days a week, 12 hours a day. Being busy passed the time better, and what the heck would you do with time off anyway other than going to the Sat market.

Don't forget he is looking for a naval perspective for this from being onboard a ship.

 

[ryanvms]

It seems odd because you are looking at it only from the perspective of an employee on hourly wage. Lots of people in civvie street are paid a fixed salary no matter how many hours they work.

sorry bout that....im 18...only every worked on hourly so never really looked at it any other way....the whole salary thing is new to me.

 

[Highlander60]

Don't forget he is looking for a naval perspective for this from being onboard a ship.

Ooops, my bad.

 

[PMedMoe]

Instead of starting a new thread, I figured I'd put this here and hope someone sees it.

I was promoted to A/L Sgt effective (not just seniority date) 01 Jan 07.  I received the substantive on 25 May 07 and qualified for Spec 1 pay.  Does my incentive come into effect on 01 Jan or 25 May?

Edit to add:  Don't ask me what happened last year as it was all back pay.

Just found this but not sure if I understand it properly:

204.015(4) (Exception) Qualifying service for pay increments does not include:

any service prior to the date of a promotion to a higher substantive rank, other than a period of continuous service in an acting rank at the end of which the officer or non-commissioned member is promoted to the same substantive rank

That seems to me that my time in acting rank qualifies.  Or does it since I went to a new pay table (Spec 1)?

 

[CountDC]

I read it the same way - your date remains 1 Jan. As far as I recall spec pay does not have any bearing.

 

[PMedMoe]

I read it the same way - your date remains 1 Jan. As far as I recall spec pay does not have any bearing.

Not according to the pay clerk here.

 

[CountDC]

Not according to the pay clerk here.

Roger that - haven't directly done pay in the last 2 years so could remember wrong.  Have they given you any refs?  Checking with my contacts and doing a search for refs to see what comes up.

 

[PMedMoe]

Roger that - haven't directly done pay in the last 2 years so could remember wrong.  Have they given you any refs?  Checking with my contacts and doing a search for refs to see what comes up.

I have asked for a ref.  Thanks for the info.

 

[CountDC]

ok - I called that one wrong. If you are able to access:  http://hr.ottawa-hull.mil.ca/dgcb/dppd/pay/engraph/OSIP_NCM_e.asp?sidesection=3.  Have verified with a contact that is a pay supvr.

5. NCMS IN THE RANK OF LS/CPL PRIOR TO ACHIEVING TRADE QUALIFICATION (OR MS/MCPL, PO2/SGT OR PO1/WO) AS REQUIRED FOR THE SPECIFIC OCCUPATION) INCLUDING:

A. MBRS PROMOTED ACTING LACKING
B. MBRS PROMOTED SUBSTANTIVE, AND
C. MBRS WHO ARE VOLUNTARILY OCCUPATIONAL TRANSFERRED

WILL REMAIN IN THE JUNIOR SUB-DIVISION AT STANDARD TRADE GROUP RATES OF PAY (EXCEPT FLT ENG AND NDT TECH MOCS WHICH WILL BE SPEC1 IN THE JR SUBDIVISION) UNTIL ALL OCCUPATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS REQUIREMENTS FOR THE OCCUPATION ARE SUCCESSFULLY ATTAINED. ONCE OCCUPATIONALLY QUALIFIED, THAT MBR WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE APPLICABLE SUB-DIVISION AND BE REMUNERATED ACCORDINGLY (SPEC 1 OR SPEC 2). THE RATE OF PAY SHALL BE ESTABLISHED AT THE INCENTIVE PAY CATEGORY FOR THE MBR'S RANK, PAY LEVEL AND NEW TRADE GROUP THAT IS NEAREST TO BUT NOT LESS THAN, THE RATE OF PAY THE MBR WAS RECEIVING ON THE DAY IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE MBR'S TRANSFER FOR THE PURPOSES OF IPC INCREASES, THE IPC ANNIVERSARY DATE SHALL BE THE ACTUAL DATE OF TRANSFER FROM THE STANDARD TRADE GROUP TO THE SPECIALIST TRADE GROUP