Pedophile fears 'jail justice'

[Kat Stevens]

Deterrence is a myth.  If it existed, nobody would ever light up a cigarette, as they know they will eventually kill them.  Nobody would ever drink a beer or two and then get behind the wheel,  I could go on and on.  We are a species who require immediate gratification, consequences be buggered.

 

[geo]

Deterrence a myth?

You make the punishment draconic enough & spend the money to enforce the laws and deterrence might very well work.

 

[armyvern]

Unless, of course, you are a narcissist and honestly believe that you are smarter than the LEOs and thus will never be caught, so you don't worry about what the punishment will be.

 

[geo]

True Vern....

At which point I invite the LEOs to come down on him like a ton of bricks.

People spend a ton of money on Locks.... but when you figure it out - locks keep honest people out.  the dishonest ones won't let a lousy little lock stop them.  So, why buy locks?... to keep the honest people out

 

[Rayman]

Deterrence a myth?

You make the punishment draconic enough & spend the money to enforce the laws and deterrence might very well work.

Except for the fact that most people will protest that something like this is barbaric and primitive in a Western civilization. I forget which country it is but ive heard some punish stealing with the removing of the offenders hands. That might work well....

However lets say its decided that offenders that commit crimes of the sexual nature have to be castrated. People will cry that denies them of ever being able to reproduce (yeah...like who would want a child with a rapist or what have you) and is inhumane. Though I, with many im sure would support something in a scenario like this....it just wont ever happen.

 

[chrisf]

People spend a ton of money on Locks.... but when you figure it out - locks keep honest people out.  the dishonest ones won't let a lousy little lock stop them.  So, why buy locks?... to keep the honest people out

I don't know if it keeps the honest people OUT so much as it keeps them HONEST...

 

[geo]

I don't know if it keeps the honest people OUT so much as it keeps them HONEST...

Your point being?

 

[geo]

Except for the fact that most people will protest that something like this is barbaric and primitive in a Western civilization. I forget which country it is but ive heard some punish stealing with the removing of the offenders hands. That might work well....

However lets say its decided that offenders that commit crimes of the sexual nature have to be castrated. People will cry that denies them of ever being able to reproduce (yeah...like who would want a child with a rapist or what have you) and is inhumane. Though I, with many im sure would support something in a scenario like this....it just wont ever happen.

There are places that require sexual offenders to be chemicaly castrated as a preconditino for their release.
Works for me!...

 

[PMedMoe]

There are places that require sexual offenders to be chemicaly castrated as a preconditino for their release.
Works for me!...

Unfortunately, most sex offender's (not sure about pedophiles) acts have nothing to do with sexual desire and everything to do with power over their victim.  If castrated (chemically or otherwise) they will merely find another tool to use, so to speak.

 

[geo]

Well... no one is doing anything with Han Island IIRC

 

[PMedMoe]

Well... no one is doing anything with Han Island IIRC

Good idea!!

 

[medaid]

I'd say shoot drunk drivers on sight! That's a pretty good deterrent considering how many drunk drivers kill people right?

Benefits:

1) Won't kill anyone again if they have
2) Won't kill anyone if they haven't
3) NO one will drink and drive again
4) Makes streets allot safer no?

Cons:

Can't think of any...

Apply same law to Street Racers, Drug Dealers, rapists, pedophiles....


Society would be a better place. 













;D J/K guys and gals, J/K  :warstory:

 

[The_Falcon]

Unfortunately, most sex offender's (not sure about pedophiles) acts have nothing to do with sexual desire and everything to do with power over their victim.  If castrated (chemically or otherwise) they will merely find another tool to use, so to speak.

Well it "may" work (chemical castration) on a true pedophile, which is someone who's sexual preference/orientation is for kids, however there have been instances where those who where put on Depo-Prevera (chem castration), just started taking steroids to counter act the effects.  But you are right PMed, in the case of sex offenders (including child sex offenders), whose M.O. is based on power/domination/control chem castration will do very little.

 

[Rayman]

You know I know this borders on acceptable, but if these sterilizers can be countered by stereroids it might just make their day. Not sure if this is fact or fiction but chemical castration renders the victim unable to produce sperm right? IF the stereroids can counter the effect it has on drive we may essentially see perps who cannot impregnate their victims. That to me sounds like it may just encourage them to go out and re-offend.

 

[sober_ruski]

I'd say shoot drunk drivers on sight! That's a pretty good deterrent considering how many drunk drivers kill people right?

Benefits:

1) Won't kill anyone again if they have
2) Won't kill anyone if they haven't
3) NO one will drink and drive again
4) Makes streets allot safer no?

Cons:

Can't think of any...

Apply same law to Street Racers, Drug Dealers, rapists, pedophiles....


Society would be a better place. 













;D J/K guys and gals, J/K  :warstory:

I know there's the j/k part, buuuut

shooting isnt someone for something they *might* do is kinda... taking it a bit far? Might as well shoot the babies as soon as they are born, since that baby *might* be a mass murderer when it grows up.

Judge Dred, anyone? Bueller?

 

[medaid]

Come on Judge Dred was a pretty cool movie! ;D

 

[The_Falcon]

You know I know this borders on acceptable, but if these sterilizers can be countered by stereroids it might just make their day. Not sure if this is fact or fiction but chemical castration renders the victim unable to produce sperm right? IF the stereroids can counter the effect it has on drive we may essentially see perps who cannot impregnate their victims. That to me sounds like it may just encourage them to go out and re-offend.

Well considering alot of their victims haven't reached puberty yet, I don't pregnancy is big concern.  And fyi depo-prevera doesn't sterilize those its used on,  it birth control (ie estrogen/progesterone), when males take it surpresses the production of testosterone (ie the hormone responsible for ones sex drive).  The roids just return the testosterone back to normal levels.  Now SURGICAL castration is not so easily reversed.

 

[medaid]

I don't pregnancy is big concern. 

Women are born with all the eggs they are going to have in their life time. This also means that they can and may get pregnant at anytime. Nothing to do with puberty...

 

[ixium]

Youngest girl that was pregnant was 5

http://www.snopes.com/pregnant/medina.asp

 

[The_Falcon]

Women are born with all the eggs they are going to have in their life time. This also means that they can and may get pregnant at anytime. Nothing to do with puberty...

 
???
So every biology, and health education class I have ever taken was wrong I guess :.  Not talking about women, talking about kids