Pedophile fears 'jail justice'

[medaid]

 
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So every biology, and health education class I have ever taken was wrong I guess :.  Not talking about women, talking about kids

Didn't I just say that?

 

[Rayman]

Well considering alot of their victims haven't reached puberty yet, I don't pregnancy is big concern.  And fyi depo-prevera doesn't sterilize those its used on,  it birth control (ie estrogen/progesterone), when males take it surpresses the production of testosterone (ie the hormone responsible for ones sex drive).  The roids just return the testosterone back to normal levels.  Now SURGICAL castration is not so easily reversed.

Vasectomys may ruin the perps chances of ever reproducing. Though I can see that back firing and hitting us in the face for the fact that if they cannot reproduce these offenders may be more inclined to re-offend though I dout they worry about impregenating their victims in the first place as its been said by a few people in the discussion jail and that sort of thing are proven to not enter a criminals mind while commiting the crime. Case and point harsher deterances may work, but to take a look at the other side of the coin and seeing the problems that may arise (just as Isaac Newton in his three laws of motion stated "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction") may be worthwhile. HOWEVER the case im using right now is rather specific and not general. You think junior might try and steal a chocolate bar from the local sick and quick if he knew he was going to lose his hands if convicted? I dout he will then....but there will still be people that for whatever reason will do it. Of course ive never stolen anything in my life, never plan to.

Though one idea I will bring to the table while off topic is with regards to drunk drivers. If caught they can never get a license or car or be in possession of a motor vehicle (of any kind even a freakin moped) again in their lives. Street racers? If caught their ride gets taken away, destroyed (no chance to save that little 300 dollar crappy tire deck) and they are limited to operating a personal vehicle limited to no more than 130 horses (basically Saturns, Cavaliers, Festivas) and if they need a vehicle with more horsepower for say a commercial purpose I would say oh well should have thought of that before racing. Though that could go either way with me.

In any case really to raise the bar while it may deter people from offending, it wil occur. As citizens we are used to our legal system and im sure anyone who got slapped heavily with the law will be all over the evening news, have the opposition government arguring his side in parliment. Though im sure some people will agree that to toughen the system it may deter and deliver more just punishment. Thats just living in a democratic society for ya.... 

 

[George Wallace]

Rayman

Did you really give this much thought?

Vasectomys may ruin the perps chances of ever reproducing. Though I can see that back firing and hitting us in the face for the fact that if they cannot reproduce these offenders may be more inclined to re-offend though I dout they worry about impregenating their victims in the first place as its been said by a few people in the discussion jail and that sort of thing are proven to not enter a criminals mind while commiting the crime.

Have you ever had sex?  Did you have sex or impregnation on your mind?

This following statement could be right out of the Dark Ages:

Case and point harsher deterances may work, but to take a look at the other side of the coin and seeing the problems that may arise (just as Isaac Newton in his three laws of motion stated "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction") may be worthwhile. HOWEVER the case im using right now is rather specific and not general. You think junior might try and steal a chocolate bar from the local sick and quick if he knew he was going to lose his hands if convicted? I dout he will then....but there will still be people that for whatever reason will do it. Of course ive never stolen anything in my life, never plan to.

As would these statements, which have some conflicting logic:

Though one idea I will bring to the table while off topic is with regards to drunk drivers. If caught they can never get a license or car or be in possession of a motor vehicle (of any kind even a freakin moped) again in their lives. Street racers? If caught their ride gets taken away, destroyed (no chance to save that little 300 dollar crappy tire deck) and they are limited to operating a personal vehicle limited to no more than 130 horses (basically Saturns, Cavaliers, Festivas) and if they need a vehicle with more horsepower for say a commercial purpose I would say oh well should have thought of that before racing. Though that could go either way with me.

Seems a lot of Street Racers are driving the little Saturns, Cavaliers, Festivas, Corrolas, Civics, etc.  Cheap cars, pimped out.

In any case really to raise the bar while it may deter people from offending, it wil occur. As citizens we are used to our legal system and im sure anyone who got slapped heavily with the law will be all over the evening news, have the opposition government arguring his side in parliment. Though im sure some people will agree that to toughen the system it may deter and deliver more just punishment. Thats just living in a democratic society for ya....   

Do you really think more legislation is need or more enforcement?

 

[ixium]

Did you just suggest that a kid's hand should be chopped off for stealing a candy bar?

 

[Rayman]

Rayman

Did you really give this much thought?

Have you ever had sex?  Did you have sex or impregnation on your mind?

This following statement could be right out of the Dark Ages:

As would these statements, which have some conflicting logic:

Seems a lot of Street Racers are driving the little Saturns, Cavaliers, Festivas, Corrolas, Civics, etc.  Cheap cars, pimped out.

Do you really think more legislation is need or more enforcement?

Ner dont have have it on my mind... and what exactly are you trying to get at with asking if ever done it or not? Thats a pretty personal question if you ask me. WRT to that im saying that while im for giving these guys harsher punishments and maybe use them as deterance, theres always going to be a side with downfalls that should be assessd to see if it wont cause more harm in the long run. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Not sticking up for these @$$hats by any means nor would I. Yes a lot of kids are driving those little sewing machines on wheels but a dyno will easily show a cars horsepower. So what they should join the drunk drivers club and lose the right to own a vehicle too? If thats the general opinion that would work too. THAT would require more legislation, as well as enforcement.

Ixium, in Canada they would never allow such a thing to be done as punishment. What I was stating is that if that were the case do you think people would still try it? Yes. But how many exactly? Less?

 

[George Wallace]

Rayman

Put a little more EFFORT into your posts.  They are hard to read and in some cases unintelligible.  Your posts may be taken with more credibility if you would post using better grammar and sentence structure.  Also, Spell Check is included on this site for a very good reason.

 

[ixium]

Ixium, in Canada they would never allow such a thing to be done as punishment. What I was stating is that if that were the case do you think people would still try it? Yes. But how many exactly? Less?

Well then since we're talking hypothetical...Why not have the punishment for jay-walking be death. Heck, people would stop doing it, right?

 

[Rayman]

Well then since we're talking hypothetical...Why not have the punishment for jay-walking be death. Heck, people would stop doing it, right?

Well you can't do much if you are dead. Though I see your point. You see all this as an extreme answer. Obviously if we told drivers that they do not have to slow down or stop for pedestrians those who chose to jay-walk may very well end up dead. However do you think people will then jay-walk?

I do not think however that the punishment you have mentioned is suitable for such an action. I do see how you are saying that in referance to my comment. 

 

[JBoyd]

On the subject of Jay-walking, If it was actively enforced (I say this because I have never heard of anyone getting a ticket for Jay-walking) I am sure more people would start abiding by it, although there would still be those who did not give a damn, much like those that continue to not wear a seat-belt even when it is for their own safety.

 

[Greymatters]

With the current system of police reaction in place, jay-walking is almost impossible to actually enforce. 

"Its more of a guideline than a rule" as the famous saying goes...

 

[JBoyd]

ah well that would explain why I have not really ever heard of it being enforced. However, personally When I have the kids out with me I will walk the extra bit to a crosswalk with lights, too many stupid drivers on the road to chance it.

 

[sober_ruski]

On the subject of Jay-walking, If it was actively enforced (I say this because I have never heard of anyone getting a ticket for Jay-walking) I am sure more people would start abiding by it, although there would still be those who did not give a damn, much like those that continue to not wear a seat-belt even when it is for their own safety.

When I hear that from any government, it makes me cringe.

 

[Timmy!]

With the current system of police reaction in place, jaywalking is almost impossible to actually enforce. 

"Its more of a guideline than a rule" as the famous saying goes...

That's why we need Claymores on the streets...  ;D

 

[Greymatters]

That's why we need Claymores on the streets...  ;D

V.1) Yes, a bunch of sharp swords sticking out of the street would work well, except for all the punctured tires...

V.2) Yes, a bunch of explosive boobytraps would work well, except for the exploding cars...

 

[axeman]

well its not so much as jaywalking but morons trying to throw themselves under my car .. ;D

 

[armyvern]

Someone else besides a defense lawyer is now a scumbag because they don't mind seeing their tax dollars go towards "babysitting" this scum?

You are right the fuck out of it.

The choice you've given that person was "death" or babysitting" -- it sure as hell wasn't "freedom" or "babysitting" -- anyone in their right fucking mind would choose "babysitting" over freedom.

Like it or not, this IS Canada and we DON'T have the death penalty (and doubt we would for rape/child molestation -- that tends to be a punishment reserved for those who kill someone) ... so the ONLY choice is "babysitting." Keep your scumbag comments to yourself.

BTW, the death penalty debate is happening in another thread.

Eerily, as you mention daughters ... there is another thread going on right now where a female teacher slept with one her 14 year old male students. There are actually people in there asking why the teacher's being punished as this would be "every adult male's dream" to be seduced by their teacher and that the student is probably the 'hero' of all his friends.  :  

Funny that, "what would you say if the teacher were male and the student your 14 year old daughter" was exactly what I wanted to type in response to that little bit of bullshit.

LAWS are applicable ALL the time, how dare you infer that someone is "making way too much money" if they agree with rapists & child molestors being "babysat." That's the ONLY choice we have here besides them being free.

Apparently, according to you -- we are only worthy of making money (or of not being labelled as scumbags along with the defense lawyers) if we advocate purposefully and with intent --- sending them into general population knowing that their death would occur as a result.
You are a troll.

Just a point of note now that this (which is what my above reponse was to) has hit somewhat close to home:

Quote from: Tommy on December 19, 2007, 12:36:36

Would you still feel that way if it was your daughter he raped? what if you were the victim?

ive seen people affected by senseless violence and crime... youre obviously living in dream world if you think these guys can be rehibilitated... and obviously making too much money if youre ok with your tax dollars going towards babysitting this scum.

I never said kill him... (implied maybe....) I just say throw him in general population and let Darwinism sort out the rest.

Uhmmm yeah. This guy ... is/was (?? Can that be revoked) my daughter's Godfather.

http://www.ottawasun.com/News/OttawaAndRegion/2008/07/04/pf-6070696.html

But, even though I just found out this morning -- I'd still not wish him dead. In jail for the rest of his life (perhaps even with Bruce as a guardian) ... fine by me, but not dead.

And, I hope to hell that you are all having a better year than I - to quote Her Majesty - it has been an "Annus Horribilus".

But still, remember to always try to play nice anyway - despite how bitchy you might feel. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Life's funny that way. And with that final word of advice from me to you -- I'm signing off for a vacation ... keep it in mind as you go about the great site here. Sometimes kindness, rather than bitchiness can go a long way. The person you bitch at today --- may the very one you require assistance from tomorrow.

 

[Jorkapp]

Uhmmm yeah. This guy ... is/was (?? Can that be revoked) my daughter's Godfather.

Revokation depends. I asked a friend of mine who's in the know, and here's what I got:

If this guy sponsored your daughter's baptism, then no, he would technically hold the title for life, though you can certainly have him removed from any affiliation and responsibility beyond that (e.g. not on any NOK lists for your daughter).

If your daughter was not baptised and this guy is a godfather by appointment only, then the appointment can be removed no problem.

Regardless, I would ensure that this guy is removed from all NOK lists.

But, even though I just found out this morning -- I'd still not wish him dead. In jail for the rest of his life ... fine by me.

I wholeheartedly agree. He need not die for his actions, though certainly he deserves to suffer as his victim(s) did.

 

[OldSolduer]

Suffer as his victims did. Lets hope he has a cell mate named Bubba....

In this country peophiles et al are separated for safety concerns. They are even looked down upon by other sexual offenders such as men who rape grown women....

 

[armyvern]

If your daughter was not baptised and this guy is a godfather by appointment only, then the appointment can be removed no problem.

Puuurfect, being the athiest that I am ... this is the sit applicable.

Old solduer ...

Suffer as his victims did. Lets hope he has a cell mate named Bubba....

If you were a friend of mine on Facebook right this instant and had the "Friends for Sale" application -- you'd see that I "own" my daughter ... her nickname?? "Bubba" as I've called her from day one. Still, you're probably correct ... even though she resmebles me not in the least with her long, straight, jet black hair ... she does have my temperment ... and claws. 

 

[OldSolduer]

Yikes Vern!!!! You're scarin me!!!