is there a point where the feds can step in and say enough?And it all gets funner and funner...
Group of B.C. First Nations wants recent treaties paused, says they weren’t consulted | Globalnews.ca
The Nations say that the K'omoks treaty claims approximately 80 per cent of WWK territory, and the Kitselas treaty would affect more than 90 per cent of NAT and LKB.globalnews.ca
.... meanwhile the BC Liberal MPs might be convinced to support another TMX line, possibly even with taxpayer money
Carney government looks at new pipeline along Trans Mountain corridor: sources
A new Alberta oil pipeline following the existing Trans Mountain corridor through B.C. has been discussed inside the federal government, sources have confirmed to the Star, but it could comewww.thestar.com
because everybody knows there is no native support for a northern pipeline nor for lifting the tanker moratorium....
See the first article.
Pipelines, energy and natural resources
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No. You are talking about “debates” that have gone on for thousands of years (I am using the word debate charitably here, because, up to 100 years or so ago, the debates were settled with war clubs and spears. Notwithstanding the current narrative that everything was hugs and kisses before Europeans showed up…)
You aren’t settling that by Federal fiat.
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But (oh, please) this BC government might fall because of the mess they've made, which would be a relief...
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The whole place is effectively ungovernable.
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Then a more forcefully arguement needs to be made. S35 is a duty to consult, not obtain consent. Get our ducks in a row, properly and thoroughly consult. Then start building, with heavy security.
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The Mounties don't seem to want that job and neither does the Army. And no politicians seem willing to go there.
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I can't even begin to imagine the international screaming if the army even dispatched an Iltis in there (and yes, I know that they are but a memory)
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Didn't know they had a say.
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If the Generals can ignore an order from the PM to sort out their HQ I suspect they can figure out how to make themselves unavailable for another Oka or BC Miner's Strike.
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So natives have inherent property rights but the majority does not?
The RCMP in B.C. have the CIRG unit that deals with public order matters and some security aspects around some of the contentious resource projects. Notably it’s a provincial unit stood up as part of the provincial policing role RCMP have in B.C.; it’s not a federal policing unit.
You know better than that. Police enjoy considerable operational independence within the scope of any particular unit or detachment’s funded mandate. So for instance if a pipeline is being installed through the Fort Moose’s Armpit detachment area, the FMA detachment and corresponding district will have a responsibility to investigate offences and detect and deter crime in that area- but it will be mixed in with all other priorities as well and will be subject to triage. And in a particular security event, the critical incident commander will still make his or her own operational decisions regarding posture, enforcement etc. But we’ve been all over that stuff a few times in past threads. Suffice to say there’s little scope for government to tell senior police leadership ‘thou shalt’ send specific forces and engage in specific enforcement.
Now with that said, what can be done is by government to focus efforts is to separately and specifically fund a unit with a narrow mandate and dedicated personnel, so that they default to a particular type of work in a particular area. It’s not direct operational control, but dedicating resources at least focuses efforts.
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No, I actually believed that if the PM ordered the RCMP to do something about civil disobedience or disorder, it would get done. I didn't, however, believe that any other government on whose behalf the RCMP policed had that authority.
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Gustafsen Lake standoff - Wikipedia
And that was before the Summit of the Americas riots in Quebec in 2001 and the 2010 G8 and G20 summits.
As demonstrated by trucks in Ottawa and pro-Palestinians everywhere "force" is no longer in the Canadian Government's vocabulary.
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