Police Folk Allegedly Behaving Badly

[lenaitch]

They found it.

Stolen police firearm recovered in Angus: OPP

OPP say police-issued Colt C8 rifle was allegedly stolen from a police vehicle in Angus on Saturday

www.bradfordtoday.ca

'Sir: I humbly beg to submit the following regarding the captionally-noted . . .'

 

[dapaterson]

EPS Sgt arrested and charged, along with a ticket agent.

Collin Smart, 59, was charged by Alberta’s police watchdog Jan. 31 with 76 criminal offences, including obstruction of justice, forgery, breach of trust and misconduct by an officer executing a process.

Nadia Kelm, 60, a traffic ticket agent, is also charged with 76 offences, which the Alberta Serious Incident Response Team (ASIRT) says relate to “19 separate occurrences in which arrest reports and the execution of warrants were falsified.”

(The title sounds salacious, but deep in the article it mentions that the funds were returned to the officer.)

$80,000 cash found in ex-Edmonton police officer's locker, documents claim; veteran member charged alongside traffic ticket agent in ASIRT probe

A retired Edmonton police officer accused of falsifying arrest reports and warrant documentation allegedly had $80,000 cash in his work locker at the time of his initial arrest, court documents obtained by Postmedia state.

edmontonjournal.com

 

[daftandbarmy]

An undercover operation at the rink


A Greater Sudbury Police Service officer was arrested and charged with assaulting a 12-year-old at a hockey game Tuesday in Espanola, Ont., and has been suspended with pay.

Ontario Provincial Police said in a news release that Melisa Rancourt, 50, who was a coach at the game, allegedly threatened and assaulted a 12-year-old player from an opposing team. No injuries were reported.

Rancourt has been charged with assault, uttering threats and causing a disturbance.

"While these allegations have yet to be proven in a court of law, the actions of one individual do not represent our members or reflect the values of our organization," Greater Sudbury police Chief Paul Pedersen said in a news release.

"It is always disturbing to hear of an officer who breaks the law and brings disrepute to the policing profession. This is in no way a reflection of our members who serve this community with pride and professionalism. We are confident that the matter will be investigated thoroughly and have confidence in our judicial system and the systems of accountability through the Police Services Act."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/sudbury-police-suspended-1.7114947

 

[dapaterson]

Apparently there are prior issues with that officer as well. The old "20% of your people cause 80% of the problems" rings true.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Apparently there are prior issues with that officer as well.

She probably had a tough childhood.

 

[daftandbarmy]

She probably had a tough childhood.

Or was a Paul Newman fan

 

[OldSolduer]

She probably had a tough childhood.

Or a mental health issue or ADDICTIONS or whatever excuse you wish to insert.

 

[CBH99]

North Okanagan man surrenders peacefully after police called to residence - Okanagan | Globalnews.ca

Vernon RCMP say they were alerted of a person who was undergoing a mental-health or drug-related crisis on Tuesday morning.

globalnews.ca

So here's a news post that is actually the exact opposite of what this thread is supposed to be about. My apologies for the post in that it isn't about police folks behaving badly, but I couldn't think of where else to put it.

On the one hand I found myself thinking..."Why even bother writing this article? It's literally the most average policing call that happens, and probably happened a dozen times across the country that day, with a similar end result..."

But then realized there actually ARE media outlets out there that DO report on police related events even when there is no controversy & police de-escalate things, and everybody walks away without incident.



So here's a nod to those police folks who aren't behaving badly, and are doing the job well

 

[Jarnhamar]

This is an American story but too good to pass up.

Officer Jesse mistakes an acorn hitting a car roof as a gunshot so he dumps his mag into a police vehicle with a detained man inside. He also rolls around on the ground grunting thinking he's been shot only to discover he just feels weird.

Incredible.

Florida deputy fires weapon after mistaking sound of acorn hitting patrol car for gunshot

A now-former Florida deputy fired his weapon after mistaking the sound of an acorn hitting the roof of his patrol vehicle as a muffled gunshot, an investigation found.

abcnews.go.com

 

[daftandbarmy]

Compromised cop... drug dealers walk...

Charges stayed in massive drug case marred by Victoria police misconduct

Drug charges have been stayed against three men who Victoria’s police chief once described as being “at the top of the fentanyl trafficking pyramid in British Columbia.” The investigation that led to their arrest and a $30-million seizure of drugs, guns and cash is stained by police misconduct.

vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca

 

[CBH99]

This is an American story but too good to pass up.

Officer Jesse mistakes an acorn hitting a car roof as a gunshot so he dumps his mag into a police vehicle with a detained man inside. He also rolls around on the ground grunting thinking he's been shot only to discover he just feels weird.

Incredible.

Florida deputy fires weapon after mistaking sound of acorn hitting patrol car for gunshot

A now-former Florida deputy fired his weapon after mistaking the sound of an acorn hitting the roof of his patrol vehicle as a muffled gunshot, an investigation found.

abcnews.go.com

Holy goodness!

I don't even think Farva could have matched that!



EDIT - Having read the article now, I actually kind of feel bad for the guy.

I don't know why he would believe there was someone with a suppressed firearm shooting at him FROM HIS OWN PATROL VEHICLE... after the suspect had been arrested and was in the back of his unit. Hanfcuffed.

But he did hear something his brain interpreted to be that of a suppressed gunshot, and simultaneously did feel something impact his torso.

He did genuinely believe he had been shot at and had been hit.

And with that genuine belief in mind, and not being familiar with the area, suspect, law enforcement dynamic with the public, local firearm laws (specifically in regards to suppressors), etc etc - I don't think it's fair for me to armchair quarterback him up until this point


It's his actions after that have me perplexed...

Unloading his pistol on his own patrol vehicle? With a handcuffed suspect in the back?


I'm unsure how that makes any sense...

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

So here's a nod to those police folks who aren't behaving badly, and are doing the job well

I always say I dont get too worried with a few news articles about bad LEO's.....the day those falldowns STOP becoming anything newsworthy is when I'll worry.

 

[dapaterson]

Compromised cop... drug dealers walk...

Charges stayed in massive drug case marred by Victoria police misconduct

Drug charges have been stayed against three men who Victoria’s police chief once described as being “at the top of the fentanyl trafficking pyramid in British Columbia.” The investigation that led to their arrest and a $30-million seizure of drugs, guns and cash is stained by police misconduct.

vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca

That's less about a problem cop than about failure to disclose that individual's early engagement (minor though it may have been). If you "reset" your investigation because of their earlier involvement, don't pretend the earlier investigation never happened.

 

[lenaitch]

Apparently there are prior issues with that officer as well. The old "20% of your people cause 80% of the problems" rings true.

Yup. 2021, during Covid, same arena.

Coach threatened and assaulted a 12-year-old opposing player say police

It was reported that after an earlier hockey game on that same day, a coach had threatened and assaulted a 12-year-old player from an opposing team

www.baytoday.ca

 

[brihard]

That's less about a problem cop than about failure to disclose that individual's early engagement (minor though it may have been). If you "reset" your investigation because of their earlier involvement, don't pretend the earlier investigation never happened.

I think you’re exactly right. Particularly when writing judicial authorizations (warrants etc), there’s an obligation on the affiant to make a full frank and fair disclosure of information material to the authorization being sought. You must give enough of the good, and all of the bad and ugly. Anything that undermines credibility or that could cause an issuing Justice to not grant the authorization must be disclosed.

If you’re up front, a lot of errors can be excused. The courts don’t expect anything close to perfection. But if you get caught knowingly deceiving a justice through non disclosure of relevant information when you ask for a warrant, you’ve just screwed your file and yourself.

 

[daftandbarmy]

That's less about a problem cop than about failure to disclose that individual's early engagement (minor though it may have been). If you "reset" your investigation because of their earlier involvement, don't pretend the earlier investigation never happened.

The Minister responsible is grumpy about the whole thing now...

B.C. minister calls out police over stayed drug charges​

Office of the Police Complaints Commissioner confirms resumption of handling of 'Project Juliet'​

B.C.'s public safety minister says he's outraged at revelations members of Victoria's police department caused the collapse of a major drug prosecution by misleading Crown counsel.

A day after CBC reported that charges had been stayed against three men accused of sitting at the top of B.C's "fentanyl trafficking pyramid," Mike Farnworth told reporters he was as "angry as everybody else when I heard the news about the staying of the charges."

"I also want to know and will be looking into the matter in terms of getting information: what specifically went wrong, how did it go wrong and what steps are being taken to ensure that it does not happen again," said Farnworth, who is also solicitor general.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/farnworth-project-juliet-victoria-police-1.7116839

 

[CBH99]

Compromised cop... drug dealers walk...

Charges stayed in massive drug case marred by Victoria police misconduct

Drug charges have been stayed against three men who Victoria’s police chief once described as being “at the top of the fentanyl trafficking pyramid in British Columbia.” The investigation that led to their arrest and a $30-million seizure of drugs, guns and cash is stained by police misconduct.

vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca

Enforcing drug laws in BC always leaves me feeling confused...

We have a provincial government that seems fully committed to supplying safe illegal drugs to addicts, flooding the streets with even more drugs than already exist.

The government is so committed to supplying safe drugs to its citizens that it's entertaining a recent report that recommends it starts to distribute fentynal & heroine as part of its menu options...so how this same government expects law enforcement to enforce drug laws is beyond my comprehension



How can we expect law enforcement to have a positive impact on the community & do its best to rid a community of drugs, when the government itself aims to be the main party distributing those drugs?

I don't know enough detail about this particular case, re 3 men charged in fentynal trafficking case...

But I reckon its going to be hard for the government to target and prosecute individuals for drug trafficking on the one hand, if on the other hand those individuals are trafficking the same drugs the government itself is distributing for free...

 

[daftandbarmy]

Enforcing drug laws in BC always leaves me feeling confused...

We have a provincial government that seems fully committed to supplying safe illegal drugs to addicts, flooding the streets with even more drugs than already exist.

The government is so committed to supplying safe drugs to its citizens that it's entertaining a recent report that recommends it starts to distribute fentynal & heroine as part of its menu options...so how this same government expects law enforcement to enforce drug laws is beyond my comprehension



How can we expect law enforcement to have a positive impact on the community & do its best to rid a community of drugs, when the government itself aims to be the main party distributing those drugs?

I don't know enough detail about this particular case, re 3 men charged in fentynal trafficking case...

But I reckon its going to be hard for the government to target and prosecute individuals for drug trafficking on the one hand, if on the other hand those individuals are trafficking the same drugs the government itself is distributing for free...

More excitement...

Former police board member files complaint against Victoria police over drug prosecution collapse

Paul Schachter says the department should be investigated for how it may have contributed to the collapse of a major drug prosecution.

www.timescolonist.com

 

[Haggis]

Enforcing drug laws in BC always leaves me feeling confused...

We have a provincial government that seems fully committed to supplying safe illegal drugs to addicts, flooding the streets with even more drugs than already exist.

The government is so committed to supplying safe drugs to its citizens that it's entertaining a recent report that recommends it starts to distribute fentynal & heroine as part of its menu options...so how this same government expects law enforcement to enforce drug laws is beyond my comprehension



How can we expect law enforcement to have a positive impact on the community & do its best to rid a community of drugs, when the government itself aims to be the main party distributing those drugs?

I don't know enough detail about this particular case, re 3 men charged in fentynal trafficking case...

But I reckon its going to be hard for the government to target and prosecute individuals for drug trafficking on the one hand, if on the other hand those individuals are trafficking the same drugs the government itself is distributing for free...

If you think it's bad now, wait until Trudeau's decriminalization promises for the next election. Cannabis got him a majority. Decriminalization of personal use amounts of meth, cocaine and heroin will get him crowned king for life.

 

[OldSolduer]

If you think it's bad now, wait until Trudeau's decriminalization promises for the next election. Cannabis got him a majority. Decriminalization of personal use amounts of meth, cocaine and heroin will get him crowned king for life.

And if the legalization etc goes a badly as the weed legalization did we will still be subject to methheads either coming down from their highs. THey are dangerous.