Police Folk Allegedly Behaving Badly
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He just can’t help himself.
And he is immune to irony…
And he is immune to irony…
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Sorry. I asked the mods to remove it. Posted in the wrong thread. Too many tabs open.
All good. I’m a many-tabber myself.
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Not constructive or welcome in those threads either...
daftandbarmy
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But entirely consistent, it seems
RCMP feared that Mounties might leak operational plans to convoy protesters: documents
'The potential exists for serious insider threats,' says a Feb. 10 advisory
The RCMP feared that serving Mounties sympathetic to the convoy protest against pandemic measures in Ottawa earlier this year might leak operational plans to protesters, says an internal threat advisory obtained by CBC News.
"The potential exists for serious insider threats," says the Feb. 10 advisory from the RCMP's ideologically motivated criminal intelligence team.
"Those who have not lost their jobs but are sympathetic to the movement and their former colleagues may be in a position to share law enforcement or military information to the convoy protests."
The document, obtained by CBC News through an access to information request, shows the RCMP worried that some of their own might co-operate with the protesters who barricaded streets in downtown Ottawa for weeks.
It was well-documented during the protests that some key convoy supporters had previous ties to law enforcement — among them a former RCMP officer who was on the prime minister's security detail and a former military intelligence officer.
That sparked concerns within the RCMP's ideologically motivated criminal intelligence unit about convoy participants getting an inside track on how police operate.
"Convoy supporters formerly employed in law enforcement and the military have appeared alongside organizers and may be providing them with logistical and security advice, which may pose operational challenges for law enforcement should policing techniques and tactics be revealed to convoy participants,'' says the unit's advisory.
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Meanwhile, concerns at not enough scalps being taken ...
B.C.'s police watchdog wants a review of how prosecutors handle cases where officers kill or seriously harm members of the public, saying low rates of charges and convictions are casting doubt on the province's system of accountability.
Ronald MacDonald, the head of the Independent Investigations Office of B.C., notes that recent decisions not to prosecute any of the officers involved in the deaths of Indigenous victims Jared Lowndes and Dale Culver have been met with public outcry and demands for change from still-grieving families.
"With numbers like that over a period of time – not just one case, not just two cases, but over a period of time – it's understandable that the public might have issues," MacDonald said.
"In order to maintain the public's faith in our system of accountability, where necessary, we think it's important to be transparent that we recognize there might be a problem."
Police officers have been convicted after IIO investigations. There are cases in which charges have been approved and guilty pleas have been entered. However, MacDonald says those cases have in his experience, been "almost exclusively" related to driving offences or violations of the Motor Vehicle Act.
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B.C. police are rarely charged for killing or harming civilians. A watchdog wants prosecutors' choices reviewed.
B.C.'s police watchdog wants a review of how prosecutors handle cases where officers kill or seriously harm members of the public, saying low rates of charges and convictions are casting doubt on the province's system of accountability.
Ronald MacDonald, the head of the Independent Investigations Office of B.C., notes that recent decisions not to prosecute any of the officers involved in the deaths of Indigenous victims Jared Lowndes and Dale Culver have been met with public outcry and demands for change from still-grieving families.
Zero convictions in contested cases
Since the IIO was founded in 2012, MacDonald said, no officer who has contested a charge has ever been convicted."With numbers like that over a period of time – not just one case, not just two cases, but over a period of time – it's understandable that the public might have issues," MacDonald said.
"In order to maintain the public's faith in our system of accountability, where necessary, we think it's important to be transparent that we recognize there might be a problem."
Police officers have been convicted after IIO investigations. There are cases in which charges have been approved and guilty pleas have been entered. However, MacDonald says those cases have in his experience, been "almost exclusively" related to driving offences or violations of the Motor Vehicle Act.
B.C. police are rarely charged for killing or harming civilians. A watchdog wants prosecutors' choices reviewed.
B.C.'s police watchdog wants a review of how prosecutors handle cases where officers kill or seriously harm members of the public, saying low rates of charges and convictions are casting doubt on the province's system of accountability.
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Should this not be viewed as a success story? That Police in BC generally do things right?
And that just because a situation is ugly and the public doesn't like it doesn't mean a police officer has committed a crime in lawfully using force? Yup.
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Winnipeg enters the chat:
A few years ago a 16 year old was killed by a WPS member. The 16 year old female was attempting to run down a WPS officer with a stolen SUV.
She had been involved with criminal activity in that a bunch of them would invade MLCC stores and openly steal liquor. In fact mom of 16 year old openly put an order in on line - or so it has been said.
The cry from the activist Indigenous community was "racist cops". The IIU investigated and I am sure they exonerated the police.
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Or the other way of looking at it is they don't want to persecute officers who have wrongfully killed someone. There are cases like Greg Matters (a CAF vet) who was shot by police on his rural property. They claimed he raised a hatchet and they shot him in the chest. Coroners report said he was shot in the back twice. The inquest still decided to not press charges on the RCMP officers involved.
When it is such a obvious lie, it makes me doubt the officers testimony completely. It also makes me question the impartialness and quality of the inquest. The only reason for such a obvious lie is to cover your ass, as why else would it be so far off from the truth?
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It sounds like the Director is complaining that the courts are not willing to cooperate, and he's setting up some groundwork for asking the government to give the IIO termination powers or something similar. 'Blast those courts and their silly rules'.
In what jurisdiction does an inquest prefer criminal charges?
In what jurisdiction does an inquest prefer criminal charges?
They were convoy-adjacent - I first heard of them as the convoy was going to Ottawa.
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Saw the name posted once here, and heard it 50,000 times in question period by the PM.Nope
Good to know I'm not the only one who's had to raise an eyebrow and go "Huh? Who?"
Same thing. I think I've heard that word on the news once (yesterday) but I heard it first, and like 50,000 times, come out of Justin's mouth.
The fact that Justin tried suggesting that Pierre was "relying on the far right vote" and that's why he wouldn't denounce them was absurd, but it caught my interest.
Like bruh...this 'organization' that nobody has really heard of except through you...is NOT the reason he's ahead of you in the polls
Same thing. I think I've heard that word on the news once (yesterday) but I heard it first, and like 50,000 times, come out of Justin's mouth.
The fact that Justin tried suggesting that Pierre was "relying on the far right vote" and that's why he wouldn't denounce them was absurd, but it caught my interest.
Like bruh...this 'organization' that nobody has really heard of except through you...is NOT the reason he's ahead of you in the polls
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there is literally the IIO report available on the internet and a series of other reports on the incident, And the coroners report does not say he was shot in the back.
“Obvious lies”
Page 7
Or
Or any number of other links. You won’t like the source but yours is underground telephone trust me bro.
Sure there are news articles about the discrepancy in testimony. None of it looks nearly like the officers should have been charged- there is not one shred of evidence of criminality in that event. There is a line at an inquiry that didn’t jive with a line in an autopsy report.
Every report detailing the police actions comes to the conclusion it was justified. Even with recommendations to avoid it in the future.
It is a tragedy. But it’s not what you’re saying it is.
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I've heard of them and Jeremy Mackenzie before...
This is irony of demanding PP to denounce Diagolon... They threatened PPs wife. And he has already denounced them.
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